We here in Albuquerque, just signed a contract with Best Friends to do very 
agressive TNR project and the city is receiving 1 million dollars from Best 
Friends in an effort.
Any healthy cats (tame or feral) who are trapped and brought over to the 
shelters are going to be spayed/neutered and returned to where they come from - 
the idea is to create NO KILL city.
We are already very agressive about TNR effort working with the city, but this 
will allow us to go to the next step.
I personally don't believe in testing cats for Felk/FIV - the idea is 
population control by spay/neuter - we simplay put them back where they come 
Also audlts cats are more resistent in getting transmitted the virus evey by 
sharing food/water bowls - this is a finding  from my personal experience -

Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 15:40:17 -0500
From: g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: TNR

At least the cat colonies don’t have to freeze in the winter in FL like they do 
Most TNR groups that I know of in this area don’t tests at all.

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 1:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: TNR

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From: Heather <furrygi...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Definitely not to argue, but to provide some perspective on high volume TNR and 
the ACA (and Neighborhood Cats) stance on routine testing of TNR ferals...


While millions of cats are of course killed in shelters each year nationally, 
the free roaming cat population on the streets may differ vastly 
geographically.  In my city (Tampa), there are hundreds of thousands of feral 
cats.   There are several of us constantly practicing TNR on the "population at 
large" (or colonies where the feeders are not fixing--a huge sore spot with us, 
too), meaning trapping pretty much every week, sometimes more than once a week, 
cats who are not at our own colonies.  Some of my friends trap anywhere from 10 
- 50 cats per week for TNR (and of course kittens and such are rescued as much 
as space/socialization/fosters permit, sick cats treated, etc.)  Routine 
TNR's--not being rescued for adoption or not being addressed/treated for 
illness are not tested.   If we tested every cat, we could only 
spay/neuter/vaccinate a fraction of the cats.  There would be far more 
(exponentially, we all know how cats can reproduce--here it's hot and a mama 
will have 3 litters a year) cats breeding, spreading illness.  There would be 
more negative AND more positive cats, and therefore since unfixed, also more 
positive (and negative) kittens being born on the streets.   In our city, we 
are serving the greater good by fixing as many as possible.   Since we all also 
do a lot of rescue, pulling friendlies/dumped cats, or cats to be treated for 
illness, from colonies, I can say we run into FELV fairly seldomly.  Despite my 
own very high # of colonies, in addition to helping people rescue and fix cats 
all over, I have run into FELV the most of anyone I know and it's really just 
been in two areas, close in proximity, where the feeders are NOT fixing the 
cats.  Disease definititely seems to proliferate where the cats are 
unsterilized, though of course I realize it spreads in other ways besides 


As TNR has steadily increased in our county, the # of cats euthanized at our 
county AS has steadily declined--I can share a graph if anyone is interested, 
the results are absolutely amazing and pretty much in direct proportion in 
terms of euth decrease/TNR increase.   Several years ago 16K-18K cats were 
killed per year at this county shelter; now it is down to around 9K.


Even our own local Humane Society--which has the most awesome s/n/TNR clinic, 
but was very firm on testing for years, finally conceded with the 
ACA/Neighborhood Cats stance that, on routine TNR's not showing signs of 
illness, the resources are best spent in sterilizing more cats than on testing. 
 They do sometimes call us while assessing/operating and say they feel a 
particular cat needs to be tested.  They are elated by the decrease in shelter 
euthanasia as well.


I have no qualms returning an FIV+ cat to a safe area with a good caretaker, I 
had one FIV+ female who lived to be 14 outside until we brought her in to live 
her last 9 months due to geriatric issues.  Granted, this was on a university 
campus where we often have cats live to be over 10 years old (just a little 
different environment from the true streets such as fast food joints, etc.).


I hope me providing this perspective isn't resented--again, it's not intended 
to argue, just some comments to explain why many embrace the ACA perspective on 
not testing routine TNR's


Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and best practices for what 
they are doing.  The overpopulation problem in Florida is insane, that is one 
thing that goes without saying.


Thanks everyone for caring about cats!



On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I agree, FeLV should be put down or homed. I have returned FIV cats

Unfortunately, Alley Cat Allies thinks they all should be returned & not even 
tested. The place I have gotten ferals fixed believes this & refuses to test 


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