And the question is WHY?  
I have a feeling a lot of it isn't JUST plain ignorance (although I hate to
admit, many are just that!), it may be the cost of spaying/neutering -
prices on the Easdt Coast can be up to $400 for a female cat!  Yes, there
are low-cost certificates available, but how many veterinarians participate?
Many are in it just for the money, and yet, they don't realize that by
performing the surgery, they could actually gain a client for life!  It's
like cutting off your nose to spite your face.... Some larger humane groups
also offer their own pre-paid spay/neuter at time of adoption, but the rate
of actually taking advantage of the already prepaid surgferiesare really
low, that's why many spay/neuter little kittens before they are adopted!
We work with two veterinary groups and get a nice discount, although the
larger group just informed us that the 50% is down to 30% (they could
certainly afford to keep giving us the old rate...).  
I also use FoA certificates (, and give adopters
another option of SPAY/USA at 1-800-248-SPAY.
It would be great to get more veterinarians to participate in both programs.

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [] On Behalf Of
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Overpopulation of cats

Thanks for what you do Natalie.   I've been rescuing cats for about
40 years now and have 14 N/S rescued cats at home and more in a building I
bought in 2004 and made into a cageless sanctuary for abused, abandoned
cats. I also TNR, but as you said, I don't see much change in the number of
kittens being born.  People still don't N/S as they find it much
easier to dump their unwanted cats.   It is difficult not to detest
most people...... Meaning people like that who care so little about their


On 10-03, Natalie wrote:
>    Yes, it would make sense - if cats had not been domesticated so long
>    ago, they would still be part of the natural ecosystem, be considered
>    wildlife and probably still reproduce only once, instead of numerous
>    times throughout the year, as they do now.  It does happen to most
>    wildlife, but obviously very differently, depending on the species.
>    It's too bad that this doesn't apply to domesticated animals anymore.
>    I doubt that companion animals will ever become extinct.  My hope would
>    be that every time someone wanted a cat or a dog, they would have to be
>    on a waiting list - what's happening right now, is obscene - the number
>    of healthy, beautiful animals that are killed routinely in shelters and
>    pounds is unbearable.  I started the cat rescue 20 years ago, and I
>    don't think much has changed, other than other small groups in the area
>    doing the same thing.  People are still not spaying/neutering, still
>    abandoning their pets, and many are still total jerks!  Those of us who
>    do rescue, are paying emotional, physically, and financially for
>    others' irresponsible behavior, because we care.

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