The crying bull: 

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From: Felvtalk [] On Behalf Of 
Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food


It's even worse than that:   
And I've heard that at a local plant, the animals weren't even all dead.   The 
tough guy who told me that was crying, so I believe him.


On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Lee Evans <> wrote:

Yum!  It's lunch time here.  So glad I'm a vegetarian and don't have to face a 
plate of meat after that tidbit of information.  But yes, cats do eat the whole 
animal and I won't get into the things that they have so generously given me 
after they caught a bird or lizard but they don't eat cows or sheep or pigs or 
intestines with the crap in them and that's what commercial by-products are.  
No one is going to empty and wash out intestines before adding them to the heap.




Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 



From: Kathryn Hargreaves <>

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:36 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food


They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting all 
the rest, too, which they don't get with just by-products (where the good stuff 
has been taken out for human consumption).   By-products contain much less 
nutrition and are often indigestible.  Note that cats also get some minerals by 
eating the dirt that's on the animals.   Guess that's why some feral feeders 
just put the food on the ground.  :-)


That has always surprised me when people report that their cat doesn't eat the 
organs, as those (exept for feces-filled intestines) are the most nutritious 
things in the prey's body, and also (I've read that) the big cats eat the 
organs first and bury the rest of the body for the next day.


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM, <> wrote:

While we are on the subject of raw diet, don't they eat some of those things 
when they catch a mouse, rabbit or squirrel or bird?  The only things my guys 
don't eat are the organs, especially intestines.  Other wise, they eat the 
whole thing.



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If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
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