I have not vaccinated any of my cats for the last 5 years and no one has had any problems. Most do not go out, just one and he stays in my yard or on the deck. I am in the woods so do not have contact with many cats and dogs. Last vaccination, one cat had a reaction, lost the hair around the site and was very sick.
---- Ardy Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: > As of this past January (2015), they were giving FIV vaccinations in combo > with distemper, and a couple others, I think rabies, and is there a parvo one > or something? I will ask next time I am there. This is in Osseo, WI. > > I would hope shelters would have this knowledge. Otherwise they are very > quick to euthanize. :( > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Kelley S > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 2:11 AM > To: felvtalk <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > I hope no one in still giving combo vaccinations for FIV. My understanding > is that the FIV vaccine (but not the FELV vaccine) will cause a cat to test > FIV+ for lifetime. In the sad occasion kitty should get out and taken to a > shelter, he will test FIV+ and that is not a good thing for a cat in a > shelter. > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Ardy Robertson <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > So happy that the older cats did not get it - somewhere I read that after 11 > months of age their immune system can usually fend it off. > > Another misconception that I had, when I took a stray cat in to be spayed and > vaccinated, was that the "combo" vaccination they use for distemper, rabies, > FIV and something else does not include a vaccination for FeLV. At that time, > I had no idea that FIV and FeLV were two different things. (Of course I > thought ONE distemper shot as kitten was all you needed to give also.) But > my point is -- it would be nice to have it all explained to you, and maybe > some vet clinics do, but ours does not. Years ago I had an orange kitty named > Scotchy that died right after being given a rabies vaccination too. They said > it was rare. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Lee > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:06 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > Not sure my emails are going through. However I have to tell everyone that > FeLv is not the horridly contagious disease that most vets would have us > believe. Three years ago to the month my little Honey Bunny passed away from > an active and virulent case of feline leukemia. Before we could try much of > anything her system shut down. My vet is not a specialist and his take on it > was that once leukemia is active nothing much can be done. > > Bunny was s cat who had tested positive at first so I kept her isolated for a > month in a separate room. She was under a year old at the time of rescue and > first test. On retesting, she had turned negative. However, I isolated her > for another month just to be sure. Still negative so I moved her in with > Samson and Delilah who both share my bedroom. Exactly a year later when Bunny > was two years old, I noticed she was not scarfing down food as she had been > doing. She grew lethargic and disinterested in playing and being mischievous. > In a matter of three weeks she went from healthy to dead. The misery was that > both Samson and Delilah had been thoroughly exposed. > > There is somewhat of a happy side of this sad story. It has been three years > since their exposure and I recently tested both cats. They are both negative. > My vet told me that most healthy, non stressed, well fed cats can survive an > exposure such as Sam and Dee had without catching the disease. The groups in > most danger are cats under a year old, stressed feral cats who have not been > fixed and elderly cats who are experiencing health issues. > > On Oct 22, 2015 11:07 PM, Amani Oakley <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may be right Ardy, as to their motivation, but in my case, I was > > > allowed to spend close to $10,000 when all treatments were tallied up, > > > for worthless ineffective treatment, until I accidentally hit upon the > > > Winstrol, with a cost of something like 50 cents per pill. Of course they > > > were telling me the whole time to let him go, and that I needed to > > > consider his “quality of life” (ie – I was being selfish and immoral), > > > and it was only my insistence that I intended to try every feasible > > > option to save my cat... > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson > > > Sent: October-22-15 10:50 PM > > > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for this information Amani. > > > > > > Possibly another reason they don’t want to treat FeLV+ cats is that they > > > somehow feel “getting rid” of them is helping to not spread the disease. > > > My thought is that most spreading is probably done from mother cat to > > > baby, and of course in those rare homes that have very large numbers of > > > poorly-cared-for cats. They are not really trusting owners of FeLV+ cats > > > to be responsible enough to not allow it to spread. I have also now read > > > that cats that are over 11 months of age probably have enough of an > > > immune system to not get the disease even if they are near positive cats. > > > Although I would not take that chance and ever let them run outdoors or > > > be around other cats. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:03 PM > > > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > > > > > > > > > Arty, again, this is an email I tried to post early this morning, but for > > > some reason it didn’t go through to the Listserve, so I am reposting: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Amani Oakley > > > Sent: October-21-15 11:51 AM > > > To: '[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ' > > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > > > > > > > > > Arty, the Winstrol is an anabolic steroid so it really just works by > > > bulking up the body, repairing damaged tissue, and also has a strong > > > ability to treat serious anemia by working directly on the red blood cell > > > producing cells in the bone marrow and erythropoietin production in the > > > kidneys. Erythropoietin is the substance that the body produces that > > > tells it to make more red cells. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is NOT the same kind of steroid as prednisolone, etc., so it can be > > > used with other types of steroids, with pain meds and with antibiotics, > > > etc., without interfering with their activity. > > > > > > > > > > > > My frustration comes from the fact that this drug was basically pulled > > > because it is associated with doping scandals in professional athletes > > > (they use it to become stronger and faster and to heal and recover from > > > workouts faster), so it became a drug whose name you can’t mention and is > > > tough to get sometimes. Also, there was a scientific study suggesting > > > liver damage with its use, but the rest of the scientific literature just > > > doesn’t seem to have borne this out and it certainly isn’t my experience. > > > So here we have this relatively inexpensive, fairly effective option, > > > with little downside risk, and quick effects usually, and the vets would > > > rather tell us there is no hope and to euthanize our cats, than suggest > > > this medication. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just don’t get it, and I have some very good friends who are high up in > > > the echelons of the vet community, so believe me when I tell you that I > > > have had this discussion on many occasions! > > > > > > > > > > > > Amani > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
