I hope no one in still giving combo vaccinations for FIV. My understanding is that the FIV vaccine (but not the FELV vaccine) will cause a cat to test FIV+ for lifetime. In the sad occasion kitty should get out and taken to a shelter, he will test FIV+ and that is not a good thing for a cat in a shelter.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Ardy Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: > So happy that the older cats did not get it - somewhere I read that after > 11 months of age their immune system can usually fend it off. > > Another misconception that I had, when I took a stray cat in to be spayed > and vaccinated, was that the "combo" vaccination they use for distemper, > rabies, FIV and something else does not include a vaccination for FeLV. At > that time, I had no idea that FIV and FeLV were two different things. (Of > course I thought ONE distemper shot as kitten was all you needed to give > also.) But my point is -- it would be nice to have it all explained to you, > and maybe some vet clinics do, but ours does not. Years ago I had an orange > kitty named Scotchy that died right after being given a rabies vaccination > too. They said it was rare. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Lee > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:06 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > Not sure my emails are going through. However I have to tell everyone that > FeLv is not the horridly contagious disease that most vets would have us > believe. Three years ago to the month my little Honey Bunny passed away > from an active and virulent case of feline leukemia. Before we could try > much of anything her system shut down. My vet is not a specialist and his > take on it was that once leukemia is active nothing much can be done. > > Bunny was s cat who had tested positive at first so I kept her isolated > for a month in a separate room. She was under a year old at the time of > rescue and first test. On retesting, she had turned negative. However, I > isolated her for another month just to be sure. Still negative so I moved > her in with Samson and Delilah who both share my bedroom. Exactly a year > later when Bunny was two years old, I noticed she was not scarfing down > food as she had been doing. She grew lethargic and disinterested in playing > and being mischievous. In a matter of three weeks she went from healthy to > dead. The misery was that both Samson and Delilah had been thoroughly > exposed. > > There is somewhat of a happy side of this sad story. It has been three > years since their exposure and I recently tested both cats. They are both > negative. My vet told me that most healthy, non stressed, well fed cats can > survive an exposure such as Sam and Dee had without catching the disease. > The groups in most danger are cats under a year old, stressed feral cats > who have not been fixed and elderly cats who are experiencing health issues. > > On Oct 22, 2015 11:07 PM, Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may be right Ardy, as to their motivation, but in my case, I was > allowed to spend close to $10,000 when all treatments were tallied up, for > worthless ineffective treatment, until I accidentally hit upon the > Winstrol, with a cost of something like 50 cents per pill. Of course they > were telling me the whole time to let him go, and that I needed to consider > his “quality of life” (ie – I was being selfish and immoral), and it was > only my insistence that I intended to try every feasible option to save my > cat... > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Ardy Robertson > > > Sent: October-22-15 10:50 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for this information Amani. > > > > > > Possibly another reason they don’t want to treat FeLV+ cats is that > they somehow feel “getting rid” of them is helping to not spread the > disease. My thought is that most spreading is probably done from mother cat > to baby, and of course in those rare homes that have very large numbers of > poorly-cared-for cats. They are not really trusting owners of FeLV+ cats to > be responsible enough to not allow it to spread. I have also now read that > cats that are over 11 months of age probably have enough of an immune > system to not get the disease even if they are near positive cats. Although > I would not take that chance and ever let them run outdoors or be around > other cats. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Amani Oakley > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:03 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > > > > > > > > > Arty, again, this is an email I tried to post early this morning, but > for some reason it didn’t go through to the Listserve, so I am reposting: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Amani Oakley > > > Sent: October-21-15 11:51 AM > > > To: '[email protected]' > > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > > > > > > > > > Arty, the Winstrol is an anabolic steroid so it really just works by > bulking up the body, repairing damaged tissue, and also has a strong > ability to treat serious anemia by working directly on the red blood cell > producing cells in the bone marrow and erythropoietin production in the > kidneys. Erythropoietin is the substance that the body produces that tells > it to make more red cells. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is NOT the same kind of steroid as prednisolone, etc., so it can be > used with other types of steroids, with pain meds and with antibiotics, > etc., without interfering with their activity. > > > > > > > > > > > > My frustration comes from the fact that this drug was basically pulled > because it is associated with doping scandals in professional athletes > (they use it to become stronger and faster and to heal and recover from > workouts faster), so it became a drug whose name you can’t mention and is > tough to get sometimes. Also, there was a scientific study suggesting liver > damage with its use, but the rest of the scientific literature just doesn’t > seem to have borne this out and it certainly isn’t my experience. So here > we have this relatively inexpensive, fairly effective option, with little > downside risk, and quick effects usually, and the vets would rather tell us > there is no hope and to euthanize our cats, than suggest this medication. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just don’t get it, and I have some very good friends who are high up > in the echelons of the vet community, so believe me when I tell you that I > have had this discussion on many occasions! > > > > > > > > > > > > Amani > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >
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