You may be right Ardy, as to their motivation, but in my case, I was allowed to 
spend close to $10,000 when all treatments were tallied up, for worthless 
ineffective treatment, until I accidentally hit upon the Winstrol, with a cost 
of something like 50 cents per pill. Of course they were telling me the whole 
time to let him go, and that I needed to consider his “quality of life” (ie – I 
was being selfish and immoral), and it was only my insistence that I intended 
to try every feasible option to save my cat, which compelled them to keep 
treating him. Therefore, while I agree with you that sometimes the intent is to 
(a) put down cats to prevent the spread and (b) save the owners a whole lot of 
money and grief, neither incentive explains what happened to us, and to Zander.

And frankly, my view now is that had I known about Winstrol at the start, and 
started treating him when he had his first crisis (from which he recovered, 
only to relapse big-time in a few months), I think he would have lived longer 
than the 7 short years I had him. He eventually died from dilated 
cardiomyopathy – a very serious case. It was very sudden and there was very 
little warning. One of the other Listserve members mentioned that her cat 
succumbed from something similar, and I now suspect that this was one of the 
hidden effects of the virus. I feel that had I been able to get the virus under 
control, without him having the very significant crisis from the viral attack 
three months after the first crisis, then it might have prevented some of the 
damage inflicted on his heart. It took months of care to bring Zander back to a 
strong state, and the whole time the virus would have been attacking his 
system. I am left to wonder if he had not been allowed to get so debilitated 
and close to death, and then had to struggle for months to recover, whether 
that took a toll on his system that might have been avoided.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: October-22-15 10:50 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Thank you very much for this information Amani.
Possibly another reason they don’t want to treat FeLV+ cats is that they 
somehow feel “getting rid” of them is helping to not spread the disease. My 
thought is that most spreading is probably done from mother cat to baby, and of 
course in those rare homes that have very large numbers of poorly-cared-for 
cats. They are not really trusting owners of FeLV+ cats to be responsible 
enough to not allow it to spread. I have also now read that cats that are over 
11 months of age probably have enough of an immune system to not get the 
disease even if they are near positive cats. Although I would not take that 
chance and ever let them run outdoors or be around other cats.
Thanks,
Ardy


From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:03 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Arty, again, this is an email I tried to post early this morning, but for some 
reason it didn’t go through to the Listserve, so I am reposting:



From: Amani Oakley
Sent: October-21-15 11:51 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Arty, the Winstrol is an anabolic steroid so it really just works by bulking up 
the body, repairing damaged tissue, and also has a strong ability to treat 
serious anemia by working directly on the red blood cell producing cells in the 
bone marrow and erythropoietin production in the kidneys. Erythropoietin is the 
substance that the body produces that tells it to make more red cells.

It is NOT the same kind of steroid as prednisolone, etc., so it can be used 
with other types of steroids, with pain meds and with antibiotics, etc., 
without interfering with their activity.

My frustration comes from the fact that this drug was basically pulled because 
it is associated with doping scandals in professional athletes (they use it to 
become stronger and faster and to heal and recover from workouts faster), so it 
became a drug whose name you can’t mention and is tough to get sometimes. Also, 
there was a scientific study suggesting liver damage with its use, but the rest 
of the scientific literature just doesn’t seem to have borne this out and it 
certainly isn’t my experience. So here we have this relatively inexpensive, 
fairly effective option, with little downside risk, and quick effects usually, 
and the vets would rather tell us there is no hope and to euthanize our cats, 
than suggest this medication.

I just don’t get it, and I have some very good friends who are high up in the 
echelons of the vet community, so believe me when I tell you that I have had 
this discussion on many occasions!

Amani

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