At 6:13 PM 06/21/03, David W. Fenton wrote:

>There are major differences performance-wise. I just found out that
>the rolled chord articulation does not apply to anything but voice 1.

I think you'll find the same problem with layers. In both cases, the
rolling function of the playback is only going to be assigned to what
Finale thinks of as a single chord (ie, on a single stem).  Not too long
ago we had a thread here discussing techniques for tricking Finale into
playing it right.

>Also (unrelated to V1/V2 vs. layers), for whatever reason, I could
>not reliably get the thing to roll from bottom to top in two staves.
>I quickly learned that you have to place the articulation in the
>bottom staff and have to very carefully position it so that the
>articulation is adjacent to all the notes you want rolled. But it
>isn't reliable.

It makes no different what the articulation is "adjacent" to.  All that
matters is which chord it's attached to. You can attach the articulation to
multiple chords (eg, in each voice or each layer) and each of them will
roll, but they won't do a combined roll going from one to the other.  This
is true whether you're using layers or voices.

If by unreliable you mean the UI is confusing when attaching and moving the
articulation, and/or that you can't apply playback to a multi-staff chord
without resorting to blank layers or other trickery, then I agree. But if
you're suggesting it's unpredictable or inconsistent, I disagree.

It's quite logical: You can attach the articulation to any chord (in
Finale's sense of what is a chord, ie, one layer/voice only) and that chord
will roll.  True, it's annoying that the computer doesn't interpret it as a
human pianist would and roll the whole thing together, but it's not
illogical. It works the same as any other articulation. If, for example,
you put an accent on top of a multi-voice (or multi-layer) chord, the
playback will only affect whichever half of the chord you attach it to.

>Anyway, in some cases I had to use use blank notation to get this
>worked out, as it could be done only with layers (and not V1/V2) and
>then I had some cases where I needed to roll notes in both voices as
>one chord. It got kind of messy, as is often the case with the
>playback of V1/V2.

In cases where I can't achieve the roll more easily with cross-staffing or
split-stemming, I usually resort to an invisible layer for playback in
which I use cross-staffing.  In that case, the visible part is graphic only
and thus can be done with either layers or voices.

mdl


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