On 22 Jun 2003 at 9:42, Harold Owen wrote:

> David Fenton writes (snip):
> 
> >Also (unrelated to V1/V2 vs. layers), for whatever reason, I could
> >not reliably get the thing to roll from bottom to top in two staves.
> >I quickly learned that you have to place the articulation in the
> >bottom staff and have to very carefully position it so that the
> >articulation is adjacent to all the notes you want rolled. But it
> >isn't reliable.
> >
> >Anyway, in some cases I had to use use blank notation to get this
> >worked out, as it could be done only with layers (and not V1/V2) and
> >then I had some cases where I needed to roll notes in both voices as
> >one chord. It got kind of messy, as is often the case with the
> >playback of V1/V2.
> 
> A few weeks ago we discussed several ways to get chords in two staves 
> to roll from the bottom to the top. I just came up with a new way to 
> do it that might be the easiest solution of all. Create a duplicate 
> of the roll sign articulation and change the numbers for "Change 
> attack" so that the top note value is 256 and the bottom note value 
> is 0. Apply this to the right hand notes and the default one to the 
> left hand notes. You can connect the two roll marks by selecting the 
> lower handle of the right hand one and holding down the down arrow 
> until the two are joined. Once you have created the first grand staff 
> chord, you copy its performance data to other chords.
> 
> This rolls the chord slightly before to slightly after the beat. If 
> you want the whole chord to roll before the beat, use the MIDI tool 
> to "add" -256 to the attack times for both chords.
> 
> Of course, if you want the large chords to roll slower, you would 
> could substitute 512 for 256 in all the settings.

It's good advice, but 512 is starting to get into a significant 
portion of a beat. 

My biggest problems, other than getting the chords to roll came about 
because of the fact that I had pedalling to get in there, too. I 
wanted the pedal down to catch the beginning of the rolled chords, 
but I didn't want the notes of the previous chord to be caught under 
the pedal. This meant that I had to shorten the notes before the roll 
so that they ended before the pedel down (i.e., the beginning of the 
roll).

I see that there is a "sostenuto" controller. Does that work like the 
sostenuto pedal on a Steinway, i.e., holding the dampers up only on 
the keys that are depressed when it is pressed? If so, I guess I 
should have used that instead of the damper pedal controller.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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