Title: RE: [Finale] Lyric entry

    From: Mark D Lew
    Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2004 10:52 PM

    It seems to me that several people here are arguing there is nothing
    wrong with Finale's Lyrics because it works just fine for them. 

Actually I never said there was anything wrong with "Finale's Lyrics." I said I favor the CORE logic of the lyric, I know I am straddling a fine line but I believe the implementation of that CORE logic through the GUI is less desirable. And there could be an argument that there is no difference between the two but I do not see it that way.

My real point of my email was that there are good reasons to use Type in Score in the current and past versions of Finale and that it is not a waste of time to use Type in Score. Actually TIS can be more than helpful than harmful if you understand the logic. 

    You and I make Lyrics work well because we've
    learned the peculiar ins and outs of the system.  Those who are coming
    to Finale for the first time are liable to have difficulties.  If we
    insist that the system is OK because it works for us, I think that's
    rather uncharitable to the newbies.

Is this any different than a newbie using Photoshop or any other high end professional program? I remember my first time with Photoshop it was difficult to understand why I should use "Unsharpen mask" to get good results when trying to sharpening an image from the Sharpening menu. I believe that all high-end applications have some qwerks and users need to do a little research to achieve the power of the entire program. I have watched very experienced Photoshop people work on something for 10 seconds that would take me 30 minutes. Most of my time is spent trying to figure out the location of the correct adjustment tools. Should I complain to Adobe that they should make Photoshop easier for me and get in the way of the professionals? No. I go out and buy a book on Photoshop, consult with an expert, or pay a professional to do the work. This can be said when trying to do my own Plumbing, Electrical, etc...

Mark, I understand your point but how much can a software company spoon feed people. I am not saying that there should be no changes made to the lyric implementation but to affect the professional users to accommodate beginners (that may or may not continue using the program) seems a bit uncharitable to the dedicated users. Coda (now MakeMusic!) has a history of this kind of action and it has affected a lot of my work. Before the 2000 versions, it seemed that Coda would change the main code of what determined line thickness with every major release. For instance, I had a file in 3.5.2 and my staff line thickness was set to 2.2 EVPUS. Then 3.7 came out the 2.2 meant something different and all of my lines became thicker when upgrading the file. I called Coda on this and they acknowledged that they had people complaining about the line thickness of the staff lines when they would start a project so they decided to change what line thickness meant in the main code. Of course I said why not just tell the people to increase the line thickness in the proper dialog box or in their default file. I was told that this was done to accommodate the new user. Do you really want something like this to possibly happen to your lyrics in your older files?

You and  I seem to rely on the lyric functions in their current form to get work done. Unfortunately I do not trust MM to make good decisions in regard to redoing any part of lyric system these days. Maybe in the future...

Steve



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