On 8 Jun 2004 at 11:12, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Oh how I agree! > > I have been using Finale's lyric entry for 10 years, since v.2.0 and > have no problems, it just takes a little time invested in > understanding how it works and is best adapted to suit your particular > work project. Too many people give up at the first hurdle and not just > with lyrics. > > Finale is a complex application with many facets some of which are > bound to be more involved and require more effort. But the pay-off is > good. > > USE TYPE INTO SCORE > > Why not? . . .
Because (unless you're cloning lyrics) it requires typing the lyrics in more than once, which creates more than one instance of the same text. And since there are things that *must* be done in the Edit Lyrics dialog that cannot be done with Type in Score alone, you have to be careful about the order in which you type the lyrics into the score, since that controls how the lyrics flow into the Edit Lyrics dialog. This means you have to behave artificially, not naturally like with pencil and paper, where it doesn't matter what order you do the operations. Since the way lyrics work is that a syllable is connected to a note, it seems to me that click assignment is much "closer to the metal" and, thus, more reliable, since that's precisely what you're doing, clicking on a note to attach a syllable to it. > . . . It is the most natural way to input lyrics, let's face it, if > you were using pen and pencil isn't that exactly the way you would go > about it? Returning for edits and spelling corrections is pretty > simple to understand and why make mistakes in the first place, would > you do that with a pen? If I don't know the word or the break, I go > and look it up in the dictionary. That way I learn and remember far > more than letting a spell checker do it for me! It's more typing. And you have to do the entry in an artificial order. And you have to add in catch words to help you keep track of what's what in the Edit Lyrics dialog. > The main thing to understand is that the words and syllables are > attached to the notes, so if you go into edit lyrics box and just > start typing in words between what you've already got, you'll end up > in a mess. Yes, indeed, that's true. And with click assignment, you won't think to do that, as the order of the syllables in the Edit Lyrics dialog doesn't have to correspond to the order in the music. > Hal uses clone lyrics for a once-and-only edits, it's perfect. Others > like me, use the technique of keeping each stave of lyrics in a > different verse. This is great when the lyrics and rhythms vary a > great deal amongst voices. It entails that any editing won't mess up > the other lines as they are all independent. O.K. so you may need to > copy similar lyrics over from other staves but DON'T BE TEMPTED in > this case. Copy and paste from the edit lyrics box instead, make the > changes there, but then use the click > assignment to get them placed (or opt-click which flows them all in > at once). > > I think the whole Finale lyrics thing is pretty good and like Hal I > don't want it radically changed. Just take a long look at the menu too > see all the versatility you have at your disposal. Sibelius is much > more restricted. I think it's pretty easy to use click assignment. I would never, ever touch Type in Score again after wasting an enormous amount of time struggling with the problems it has. Click Assignment is much more straightforward and is implemented in a manner that is much closer to the way the whole lyrics mechanism actually works. Because of that, it's easier to avoid problems in the first place, but also easier to correct them if they happen. I think anyone who uses Type in Score is making more work for themselves and I cannot understand this approach. -- David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associates http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
