On 06 Jul 2005, at 12:10 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 6 Jul 2005 at 3:24, Darcy James Argue wrote:
When you select a Dynamic Part in Sibelius, it spawns a completely new
window. . .
But not an *independent* one -- it's a child window of the parent
Finale window. This seems to me exactly the correct way to do it.
Well, I don't know how XP works so I can't comment on that end of it.
But on the Mac, there is no such thing as a "child" window.
. . . My preference would be for Finale to *not* do that. I like
the concept of parts as a separate View in *the same window* -- hence
my idea of Parts View and Score View.
How would you want it implemented, as two panes of a single window?
No -- no split screen. It would be just another view inside the main
window, like Page View and Scroll View.
If you do that, you end up with the ability to have only two panes,
meaning you could not compare multiple parts simultaneously.
Hmm. Well, you could open multiple copies of the same document -- but
I don't think that's a very good solution, either.
The problem is that -- on Mac at least -- it's very bad UI to have
changes in one open document automatically affect another document.
With Dynamic Parts, we are talking about a *single* document that
contains both the score and the parts. Parts view is just a different
way of viewing the underlying data. But as soon as we start spawning
separate windows, that looks -- to Mac users -- like separate,
independent documents, and that's not what we want for Dynamic Parts.
It's hard for me to say if this is a problem, because I never compare
two (or more) parts on-screen simultaneously. If I want to compare
parts, I print them out. But if on-screen comparison of multiple parts
is important to people, I guess there needs to be some way of doing
that -- I would just prefer to do that *without* spawning a bunch of
new windows. But that's a tough nut to crack.
Well, I think it should work the same way as "New Window" within a
document works -- it opens a new document window showing the same
document, and you can adjust that window's view accordingly.
There is no "New Window" menu item on the Mac.
The simplest way to implement it, seems to me, with the most
flexibility, is to start from Finale's current implementation of New
Document Window, where you can switch between scroll and page view in
any of those windows independently. If you then add the part views as
options in each of those document windows, you've got maximum
flexibility.
I can't see how your suggestion would do anything but prevent the
implementation of viewing more than one part at a time.
I have no problem with the UI you suggested for Windows, if that's what
Windows users are used to. But the approach you suggest is completely
nonstandard on the Mac.
In Sibelius -- at least on Mac -- you can't compare two parts
side-by-side. You can only have the score window plus one dynamic part
open at any one time.
There is also a warning in Sibelius: "Closing the full score will also
close the parts. Do you want to do this?"
- Darcy
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