On 7 Jul 2005 at 13:08, John Howell wrote: > At 8:27 PM -0600 7/6/05, John Abram wrote: > > >On 6-Jul-05, at 5:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>You're really splitting hairs here -- putting 3 evenly spaced notes > >>within one beat sounds like triplets to me, no matter how it's > >>represented in the time signature. > > > >Yes it sounds the same, like "witch" sounds like "which" and like 4/8 > >sounds like 4/16 and 4/4. > > Poor example, I'm afraid, and one that suggests you are not a singer. > "Which," "whoa," and other "wh" words like "where" properly start with > a phoneme produced by a puff of air blown through pursed lips. > "Witch," and "woe" and "ware" do not. The pronunciation is often > confused by young children, rap artists, and some speakers of > dialectal English. Fred Waring insisted that his singers pronounce > every sound (every phoneme) in every syllable and do so at the same > instant, to ensure that the words were clearly intelligible.
See, I read that as part of his point -- that here is a superficial similarity between the pronunciation of the words that, when one examines the details of pronunciation, vanishes. I thought his analogy was that 6/8 is not really the same thing as 2/4 with triplets, when examined closely. And I'd agree that that, though I'd also agree that it can be *treated* that way. A perfect example of that is the last movement (starts on p. 38 (17:07 in the MIDI file)) of this incompletely formatted score of a piano quartet: http://www.dfenton.com/Midi/FoersterOp11_1.PDF http://www.dfenton.com/Midi/FoersterOp11_1.MID The relevant sections begin on pp. 44 (19:07), 60 (23:58) and 64 (24:24). Here, it's pretty clear that the composer chose 2/4 with triplets just because he didn't have any method for notating 4 16ths in the time of 3 8th notes in 6/8. But in many cases, the distinction between the two meters is a salient, however subtle it may be. Aren't subtleties like that what good musical performance is about? -- David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associates http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
