On 12 Jul 2005 at 13:37, Neal Schermerhorn wrote:

> If you wish to have your posts not archived, then the correct
> protocaol in email is to set the appropriate X-Header. . . .

Should the SHSU Finale archives honor the X-NoArchive header?

I want my posts archived there, but not in any public forums like 
Opensubscriber.com, but there is no way to have one or the other.

> . . . Adding a ©
> notice in your signature is senseless - that is used in print for use
> by humans, but no human is involved with the actual archiving of your
> post. . . .

It is only senseless to the degree that it is only explicitly stating 
what is already an implicit legal right of the author.

> . . . Complaining about archiving when the X-Header has not been 
> set is kinda like whining about the draft when you've left the door open.

A human being maintains the website and is responsible for the 
actions of its website.

All that's needed to make this pretty much unambiguously wrong is to 
change the terms of service of the list -- if those terms explicitly 
state that subscribers have no rights to republish content posted to 
the list without the explicit permission of the authors of the 
content (something which I think any ethical subscriber would be 
observing without needing to be told), then the listowner could deny 
these archive sites a subscription on that basis.

> Finally, the whole point of this list is to help others. Does it
> matter in a real way whether the person is helped through the
> "official" archive or another?

Given that anyone is welcome to that help by identifying themselves 
to the list owner in the form of a subscription request, yes, I think 
there *is* a difference.

> If there was some proprietary information or secrets or artistic worth
> or such here, ok. But it's an email list. If someone thinks so highly
> of the information we freely exchange here that they want to draw
> attention to it, that's a compliment.

Someone is making money off content to which they have no legal or 
ethical rights of republication. The method of republication makes 
the content available in a form that potentially strips the content 
of its original context (i.e., via a Google search). That loss of 
context could lead to misinterpretation and misunderstanding that 
could have repercussions well beyond the realm of this list. Again, I 
refer you to this URL, where certain issues are raised that I think 
people on this list should be concerned about (all on one line):

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_07/006691.ph
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