On 30 Jul 2005 at 13:10, Phil Daley wrote:

> At 05:56 PM 7/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> >Well, you won't encounter the problems unless you persist in using
> >your optical drives like removable disks, i.e., the way you could in
> >all previous versions of Windows.
> >
> >Here's the scenario that reveals the problems:
> >
> >Use commandline XCOPY to backup files to a CD-R.
> >
> >Try it once. It will work.
> >
> >Try it 3 times, and chances are that 1 of those attempts will hang
> >and never finish.
> >
> >And you won't be able to shut down your PC without pulling the plug.
> 
> That is what CD-RW media is for.

*What* is what CD-R media are for? Notice that I didn't say CD-RW, 
but CD-R.

> CD-R media is for making permanent backups of some particular state.

Yes. That's what I said. CD-R.

> I would never have imagined that your particular case would have ever
> worked.

Read my message again -- I said CD-R. I was using XCOPY to make 
backups. Indeed, that's the way I've been doing it with many of my 
clients since the days before CD-R drives were common and they were 
using Zip drives for backup. When CD-R was a cheap option, my clients 
started buying machines with that in them and we used the same XCOPY 
scripts for backing up their files (with suitable alterations to 
reflect different paths and drives, of course).

In Windows NT, Win98 and Win2K, this worked just fine.

With WinXP, it started breaking, becoming unreliable (because of the 
addition of the staging area, I believe).

This was my point: using the drive CORRECTLY (as you agree, it seems 
to me), it now, with WinXP, doesn't work reliably.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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