On Sep 19, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

On 19.09.2006 Chuck Israels wrote:
It is true that you will have to update the mm rests, but that doesn't need the parts to be recreated.
Dear Johannes,
My respect for you and gratitude for your generous help - given to many of us over years of participation on this list, and for the way you have shared your meticulously worked out settings for ties etc., makes me want to take the time to make sure that you understand that this particular issue is not simply one of those that arises from my overlooking something obvious. (There have been a few of those!)

Chuck,

as I said, I am not entirely sure whether the staff style problem can be avoided without recreating parts. However, as far as mm rests go it is simply not necessary - and it would be a disaster if it was.

All you need to do is select the whole part with the measure tool, and update using "Create MM Rests".

This will not change any measure attributes, so if you have measure attributes which will cause mm rests to be broken, you would have to delete those first. However, recreating parts just to update the mm rests is not a very good way to work imo, since any formatting done in the parts up to this moment will also be lost.

I realize that in your particular case recreating parts is a good way to do it, because you are working from pre-existing files as templates.


The pre-existing file from which I'm working is the new Jazz Band Template included in 2007, albeit extensively modified.


This, however, is also not a very desirable way to set up a score in the first place, since a lot of junk collected in the source file will survive, and be your baggage in the future.

Do you think this is true for new files created from this template? Then it would be impractical to work from templates, and that would be a drag.

Problems like breaking mm rests are the direct result of this, and not immediately connected to linked parts as such. The same would happen if you extracted the parts the old way.

It is true that extracting parts produces the same results in 2007, but I believe that this is entirely new behavior in 2007, though not exclusive to linked parts (though probably related to the changes in the code required by the new system). I could be wrong, but my communication with MM (if I am understanding it correctly) indicates that this is so. Of course, I don't disagree that the missing MM rests can be gotten back by simply updating them, but that does not solve the problem with staff styles or, as Lon points out, the occasional missing chord suffix. I believe that something is going on here beyond what you are seeing, Johannes, and that may be a result of our using different notation tools in Finale. Anyway, I am less lonely since Lon has weighed in.

Chuck





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