Seems to me that the reason for the more welcome sound of a doubled minor third rather than a doubled major third is that the major third is already so strong in the harmonic series of the root, and the minor third is not. This provides some explanation of the doubled third in a first inversion chord, where the harmonic of the root is not there to reinforce the third.

As I have pointed out before, it is my contention that the jazz musician's practice of adding a bass note a fifth below the root of a final minor chord is a "modern" way of stabilizing the sound. A Picardy third does this one way, and the F7 for C minor does it another way. In either case, it eliminates the conflict of a minor third above the bass note.

As far as the "rules" are concerned, I believe that they are a function of the "language" of the moment, and that strong statements can be made in different ways.

Chuck


On Feb 4, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:


On Feb 4, 2007, at 8:11 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Sorry for OT question, but I can't think of any better place to ask this.
Kinda embarrassed to ask.  Please go easy on me.  I did google around
but couldn't find anything helpful.

I remember, in traditional harmony, you are not supposed to double the 3rd, but I don't remember what is the reason for this. The sound isn't
obvious to my ear as it does with parallel 5th and parallel 8th.

And no doubling on the leading note, is another one I am vague about its reason. Is this limited to SATB, or the leading note is not allowed to
be doubled even though the voices are more than 4?

I'm sure there are theory gods here on the list to help you out, but it was mostly the MAJOR third that is the last note to be doubled. This normally means that with four voices, there is only one major third. Once you get above six or seven voices, then the major third is more likely to be doubled. The general rule (non- specific) is that any note with a lot of tension on it should have less doubling than notes with less tension do.

Minor thirds could be doubled, at least, more so than major thirds. In most cases, it is the bass note that gets doubled most of the time (first inversion being a notable exception) but the needs of voice leading can cause some rarer note to be doubled gracefully from time to time. You are correct that the leading tone is very resistant to being doubled, more so than any other note.

Of course, in late Romantic and early 20th C works (as well as jazz!) these doubling rules go out the window.

I saw another explanation of this that intrigues me. It stated that the stable notes of the major scale are the perfect intervals 1, 4 and 5th degrees, and these notes can sustain more doubling than the other, less stable, scale notes. In effect this means that the major triads in a key generally allow the root and 5th doubled, whereas the minor triads can allow the third doubled. No explanation was given for minor keys!

As to the reason, well, as one of my theory teachers put it, "Nobody from the period did it. That's the reason we don't either when we are writing in their style." Fair enough, I guess. (This was in answer to why I couldn't have parallel fifths when the second fifth was diminished, which was NOT strictly parallel fifths in my opinion.)

Christopher


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