Chuck, that's not the issue here, however -- I mean, opening old files with new 
versions. The problem is in the Finale 2003 file itself, because  I opened it 
with Finale 2003 and got into the same weird stuff.
Harold

At 13:22 -0700 02/04/09, Chuck Israels wrote:
>Dear Harold,
>
>This kind of thing has happened to me when I've opened old files in newer 
>versions of Finale.  It's not that unusual.  The full version of TGTools has 
>things I wouldn't want to be without.  I always use Modify/Transfer to move 
>the layout of one part to another in similarly laid out linked parts (just for 
>one example).
>
>Chuck
>
>
>On Apr 2, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote:
>
>>I agree with you.  I copied the music and pasted into a new file. I found out 
>>the other two 2003 files in the same folder as this one, have the same 
>>problem!!!  And some other weird stuff happened. I couldn't delete a couple 
>>of notes entered accidentaly in speedy entry. The notes appeared only when 
>>leaving the measure being edited. When I clicked the measure (speedy entry) 
>>to delete them, they disappeared. They didn't show in any of the four layers. 
>>And since I could't delete the notes, I tried to clear the measure. The notes 
>>remained, even though everything else vanished. Then I tried deleting the 
>>measure. No use...  Really strange. I will not use ths file, but I might get 
>>TGTools just to see it fixed anyway.
>>Thank you.
>>
>>Harold
>>
>>
>>
>>At 15:06 -0400 02/04/09, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>>>Hi Harold,
>>>
>>>I downloaded the file you posted and there is definitely something screwy 
>>>about it.
>>>
>>>You can fix the problem with the FULL version of TGTools (which includes the 
>>>Staff List Manager) -- i.e., not the TGTools Lite that comes with Finale -- 
>>>but it might be best to copy the music into a new file, because this one 
>>>seems like it's become corrupted.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>- Darcy
>>>-----
>>>[email protected]
>>>Brooklyn, NY
>>>
>>>On 2 Apr 2009, at 2:42 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>>The file has never been optimized because it is a single instrument, 
>>>>one-staff part. But yes, I did removed it anyway.
>>>>Thanks. Harold.
>>>>
>>>>At 14:23 -0400 02/04/09, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>>>>>Did you try REMOVING optimization? That's what it sounds like the problem 
>>>>>is to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>- Darcy
>>>>>-----
>>>>>[email protected]
>>>>>Brooklyn, NY
>>>>>
>>>>>On 2 Apr 2009, at 1:47 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for answering. I did that. Doesn't help. This is what is happening:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a single staff part written in FinMac 2003. The instrument is the 
>>>>>>double bass.
>>>>>>I open it, in page view, whether with Finale 2003 or 2008, doesn't 
>>>>>>matter, and I see the bass staff with all the music.
>>>>>>Still in page view, I add a new staff.
>>>>>>The new staff does not show (still in page view). Only the original bass 
>>>>>>staff shows, as if I had not added a new staff.
>>>>>>I switch to scroll view and I can see both staves now. The bass and the 
>>>>>>newly created one.
>>>>>>Swith back to page view - I see only the bass staff.
>>>>>>Back to scroll view, I delete the bass staff - now I see only the new 
>>>>>>staff in scroll view. The bass staff is gone, as expected.
>>>>>>Back to Page view - I see a blank page!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The file is here if anyone wants to check:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://hmauro.com/finale
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's the only file in the directory. Try adding a new staff to it.
>>>>>>Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Harold
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 13:06 -0400 02/04/09, Ray Horton wrote:
>>>>>>>Sorry that I haven't read the whole thread, so this may be way off base, 
>>>>>>>but my first thought was to Optimize.  That sometimes fixes a multitude 
>>>>>>>of previous changes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>RBH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote:
>>>>>>>>At 0:38 -0400 02/04/09, David W. Fenton wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 2 Apr 2009 at 1:26, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>There is one system per page, but no music!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Check the margins for one of the systems. Maybe one of the margin
>>>>>>>>>settings got set to something so large (or small) that the music is
>>>>>>>>>actually there, just displaying somewhere completely off the page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>David W. Fenton                    http://dfenton.com
>>>>>>>>>David Fenton Associates       http://dfenton.com/DFA/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I reset the system margins and now I have several systems per page, 
>>>>>>>>which shouldn't be, since there are six staves per system. Still no 
>>>>>>>>music, just the dotted lines and small boxes. Here are the measurements 
>>>>>>>>for all systems, exept the top margin of system one, in inches:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Top: 0,37153;  left: 0,04861; right: 0,04861; bottom: 0,78125
>>>>>>>>Distance between systems: 0.3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thank you.
>>>>>>>>Harold
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