John, Indicating the transposition for octave-transposition instruments *is* in fact frequently done in concert pitch scores (aka "scores in C," though I much prefer the term "concert pitch scores").
The use of octave-transposing clefs is extremely helpful, actually, since concert pitch scores are not standardized about whether octave-transposing instruments are also notated at the sounding pitch instead of the written pitch. Technically they should be, of course, since the whole point of a concert pitch score is that *all* instruments are supposed to be notated at the sounding pitch. But that tends to result in an awful lot of awkward ledger lines for piccolo, glock, contrabassoon, contrabass, etc. Hence the use of octave-transposing clefs, which allows you to notate the instruments at pitch without turning every note into a telephone pole, *and* removes any ambiguity about where the contrabasses etc. are actually sounding. Cheers, - DJA ----- WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 3 Aug 2010, at 2:13 PM, John Howell wrote: > At 7:21 PM +0200 8/3/10, Daniel Wolf wrote: >> I'm copying a score in which the composer requires a treble clef with a 15 >> above it for a prominent glockenspiel part. I can't figure out how to get >> this with the clef designer. Finale 2011, Windows machine. Before I go >> with ordinary treble clefs and add the 15 as a separate text, any >> suggestions would be much appreciated. >> >> >> Daniel Wolf > > My only suggestion would not be much help. For Glockenspiel or Orchestra > Bells (or Crotales) the 15va transposition is a given and is perfectly > understood (much like the 8va basso for the string bass or the 8va for > xylophone), so indicating it in the clef is redundant and is never done. > > As I said, that isn't at all helpful. > > John > > > -- > John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music > Virginia Tech Department of Music > College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences > Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 > Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 > (mailto:[email protected]) > http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html > > "We never play anything the same way once." Shelly Manne's definition > of jazz musicians. > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
