On Oct 8, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > I am happy to help when I can! > >> I have now done considerable work in converting Finale's Jazz Band Template >> (created with the Wizard) and am reluctant to abandon it. Is there any >> reason why I couldn't save a document style from this template when I have >> finished the work on it? > > > There are a few reasons why I recommend starting over from scratch creating > your personal Document Style with each new version of Finale. One is that > files brought forward from previous versions of Finale tend to accumulate > "crud" (for lack of a better word) over time, so I always prefer to start > fresh with each new version. My experience is that this is the most stable, > reliable way to go.
Well, this is a new "clean" 2012 document - created with the 2012 Wizard, so I don't think there is any reason to think there's inherited crud. It is exactly for that reason (my 2011 templates were created from imports of imports and therefor more than likely to have problems hidden in them) - that, and the expectation that a document created with the Wizard in 2012 will have correctly set up instruments - without much fussing in that department. > Second, MakeMusic often introduces a few new things in their default > documents (most often new Staff Styles, and also recently the new Expression > Categories) which I like to incorporate into my own Document Styles. Of > course, it's possible to add these things manually, or import them as > libraries, but if I'm going to do that, it's not *that* much more trouble to > start entirely from scratch, which is safer. I've already noticed a few new things and kept them in libraries before deleting things I don't want and importing elements form 2011 libraries. > Can't help you with the File Manager problem -- have you tried exporting that > library from a different document, or a different version of Finale? I'll try something along those lines. Thanks, Chuck > > Cheers, > > - DJA > ----- > WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > > > > On 8 Oct 2011, at 4:26 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > >> Dear Darcy, >> >> As usual, you respond to these pleas with useful information. I'd call you >> and Christopher (and a few others) "my saviors", but that starts to sound >> quasi-religious and overly emotional. Nevertheless, I am grateful for the >> time you take to help make things clear. It is obvious that you take some >> trouble to help solve these problems. >> >> First: the Alternate Notation problem is solved. Choosing the music >> characters did the trick. I had not encountered that situation in earlier >> upgrades so didn't know where to look for that. >> >> I have now done considerable work in converting Finale's Jazz Band Template >> (created with the Wizard) and am reluctant to abandon it. Is there any >> reason why I couldn't save a document style from this template when I have >> finished the work on it? >> >> One more problem: I have imported custom expressions, articulations and >> staff styles - all successfully, but when I try to import my carefully >> created smart shape library (full of Bill's things), the file manager >> reports an error and it doesn't import. Ideas on that one? >> >> The usual thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >> >> On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: >> >>> Hi Chuck, >>> >>> Rather than make new templates, you should make yourself a brand-new >>> Document Style. You can then select that style when creating new documents >>> via the Setup Wizard. Otherwise, you will not get many of the new benefits >>> of the Score Manager system. Having a bunch of templates for various >>> instrumentations is not really the best way to go -- the Document Style >>> allows you to use a single document as the basis for everything you write, >>> regardless of instrumentation. If there's an ensemble that you use >>> frequently, instead of making a template for it, you can just save it in >>> the Setup Wizard. Check the documentation on Document Styles to learn how >>> to do this. >>> >>> You can (and should) base your new Document Style on a copy of the Finale >>> 2012 default document -- you'll need to make a lot of adjustments, so the >>> best thing to do is to open Finale 2011 and Finale 2012, and compare each >>> section of the Document Options for your old template in Finale 2011 >>> side-by-side with the corresponding section in Finale 2012. Then type in >>> all of the necessary changes to the Document Settings in your clean Finale >>> 2012 file, which will be the basis for your Document Style. Of course, as >>> you know you'll also need to import any custom articulation, expression, >>> and chord libraries (deleting the existing items first), adjust your Smart >>> Shape placement settings, re-create any custom Smart Shapes and Staff >>> Styles, set up all your metatools, etc. This is all very tedious but if you >>> use Document Styles then you only have to do it once (as opposed to many >>> times for many different templates) -- and it is MUCH safer and more >>> reliable to start with a clean Finale 2012 file than it is to import an >>> existing template from an earlier version of Finale. >>> >>> As for the slash characters, that's actually a two-step process. First, in >>> Document Options -> Fonts, choose "Alternate Notation" from the "Notation" >>> pull-down menu, then select "ChordSym" (24 point). Then, in Document >>> Options -> Alternate Notation -> Music Characters, for each item ("Large >>> Slash," "Small Slash," etc) click "Select" and choose the appropriate >>> character from the ChordSym font set. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> - DJA >>> ----- >>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 Oct 2011, at 2:53 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> This is just the first of what will probably be a number of questions >>>> regarding moving to 2012. >>>> >>>> I am making new templates (as recommended), rather than importing old ones >>>> - partly because I believe that should simplify loading instruments >>>> (perhaps they will turn out to have been pre-loaded). Bill Duncan fonts >>>> appear correctly in the chord library, where I have transferred my >>>> suffixes from earlier versions, but not in alternate notation. The >>>> slashes (one of the most attractive features of Bill's fonts) do not. I >>>> haven't tried the rhythmic notation yet, but I have my doubts, as this is >>>> also an "Alternate Notation" font. >>>> >>>> Ideas, anyone? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>> Chuck Israels >>>> 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 >>>> Portland, OR 97209-316 >>>> >>>> land line: (971) 255-1167 >>>> cell phone: (360) 201-3434 >>>> >>>> <www.chuckisraels.com> >>>> <www.chuckisraelsjazz.com> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> Chuck Israels >> 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 >> Portland, OR 97209-316 >> >> land line: (971) 255-1167 >> cell phone: (360) 201-3434 >> >> <www.chuckisraels.com> >> <www.chuckisraelsjazz.com> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-316 land line: (971) 255-1167 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 <www.chuckisraels.com> <www.chuckisraelsjazz.com> _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
