Hi Chuck, Did you get the file I sent called "Five edited.mus"? I put the barlines in the alto 1 part only, and you can copy them to other staves.
If you want to enter them yourself, (Oh yeah, the drums, too!) they are in the Miscellaneous category, but I assigned it to the metatool B (for Barline!) so you can enter them easily. I copied it from one of the default files supplied with Fin2102, but I thickened it from 3.5 EVPUs to match your existing barlines at 4.5 EVPUs. Christopher On Sun Sep 16, at SundaySep 16 9:17 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > Dear Christopher, > > Thanks - still missing bar lines though. Where do I find them as expressions > so I can place them in the part? > > And, thanks for the suggestions about the text repeats. I will try to get > them to look and work right. I never did get around to working out the > routine of showing and hiding double entries of those expressions so that I > could have sensible looking MM rests. > > Fond regards, > > Chuck > > > On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Christopher Smith > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> BTW, Chuck, I was looking through the score, and I notice you use >> expressions instead of Repeat Tool expressions. I, too, used to do that, >> because the Repeat Tool items were so unpredictable, but there is something >> that might persuade you to come back to the Repeat Tool for DSes, To Coda >> signs and the like. It's that they APPEAR on parts even when they are in the >> last measure of a multimeasure rest! Regular expressions do not, and you >> have to break the multimeasure rest as you have done, or else re-enter them >> in the parts and hide them in the score. >> >> I don't know exactly when this happened, but I noticed it in 2012b. >> >> C >> >> On Sun Sep 16, at SundaySep 16 8:06 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi Chuck, >>> >>> I just sent you an edited version. Because of the tuplets, the 1/4 solution >>> won't be optimal. I used my solution instead. >>> >>> Hey, it's great that there ARE so many ways around this! >>> >>> Christopher >>> >>> >>> On Sun Sep 16, at SundaySep 16 6:43 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Darcy, >>>> >>>> I just sent you the score - to get a more specific opinion. But just so >>>> you and Christopher know what I'm facing here, this is the bridge of Bill >>>> Evans' "Five", in which not only are the measures divided as I describe, >>>> but the melody is overlaid in groups of 4 quarters in the space of three >>>> quarters (4:3 tuplets), starting on the second beat of the 4/4 measure. >>>> (Of course, these are two rhythmically symmetrical phrases, so you only >>>> have to solve it once). >>>> >>>> I played the bass part to this hundreds of times and never once thought >>>> about how it might be notated. This score supports my contention that >>>> there was extraordinary invention in Bill's rhythm - a largely ignored >>>> element when people discuss his music. >>>> >>>> I'll send this to Christopher too. >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Chuck, >>>>> >>>>> Chris has given you the solution for what you want (system-long measures >>>>> with barlines and time signatures added as expressions/articulations). >>>>> >>>>> Depending on the complexity of the part, and whether you need the drum >>>>> part to appear in the score, there is also the option of creating the >>>>> drum part as a completely separate Finale document. >>>>> >>>>> Another option -- and I'm sure you've considered this -- might be to >>>>> notate the entire thing in 4/4, using accents to create the implied >>>>> downbeats in the horns etc. (and perhaps even a dashed line showing the >>>>> implied meters). This is a strategy that has worked well for my music in >>>>> the past -- implying different meters superimposed onto the 4/4 grid, >>>>> without changing the actual underlying time signature. >>>>> >>>>> This approach might not be suitable for what you've written, but it does >>>>> have the advantage of being much easier to do in Finale than asymmetrical >>>>> barlines, and also gives you consistent measure numbers in the drum part >>>>> vs. the other parts. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> - DJA >>>>> ----- >>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16 Sep 2012, at 3:09 PM, Chuck Israels <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have a drum part with an independent time signature (that has been >>>>>> selected in the attributes for this staff), but I don't know how to >>>>>> rebar the music for the drum part. >>>>>> >>>>>> All other parts have one measure of 4/4, 4 measures of 3/4, one measure >>>>>> of 4/4 and 4 measures of 3/4 again. This adds up to 8 measures of 4/4 >>>>>> for the drummer, and I want the drummer to see only that - not to be >>>>>> distracted by what the other players are doing. When I change the time >>>>>> signature on the drum part for the affected measures, the 3/4 measures >>>>>> are changed to 4/4, but there are too many bar lines, and too many beats. >>>>>> >>>>>> What am I doing wrong? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck Israels >>>>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave. >>>>>> Portland, OR 97202-7097 >>>>>> >>>>>> land line: (503) 954-2107cell phone: (360) 201-3434 >>>>>> >>>>>> <www.chuckisraels.com> >>>>>> <www.chuckisraelsjazz.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> Chuck Israels >>>> 8831 SE 12th Ave. >>>> Portland, OR 97202-7097 >>>> >>>> land line: (503) 954-2107cell phone: (360) 201-3434 >>>> >>>> <www.chuckisraels.com> >>>> <www.chuckisraelsjazz.com> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > Chuck Israels > 8831 SE 12th Ave. > Portland, OR 97202-7097 > > land line: (503) 954-2107cell phone: (360) 201-3434 > > <www.chuckisraels.com> > <www.chuckisraelsjazz.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
