Hi Robert, Chuck explained it better. Repitch an EXISTING chord in Speedy by holding down the new notes on the MIDI keyboard (when the Speedy cursor is on the chord) and hitting Enter.
Yes, I am in 2012c. I tried to track it down briefly just now, but didn't get it to show. I do, however, often see it. I have spend so much time confirming bugs and finding exact procedures to get them to show and submitting them, only to be told, "Oh yeah, that's been noted and put on the list to fix already" and then nothing happens for years, if at all. If I ever find a procedure that absolutely shows the bug, I'll post it. On the other hand, I have a procedure for entering a passage on a chromatically transposing staff that will not allow an accidental to show at all. This works 100% of the time since 2008. Let me know if you want to see it. Christopher On Sat Oct 13, at SaturdayOct 13 9:50 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > You say by "hitting enter" but in my setup that does nothing. Could you > elaborate the procedure in detail? When I hold down a chord on the midi > keyboard, I have to hit a number for anything to happen. > > Also, please confirm you are using Fin2012. > > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Christopher Smith < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Robert, >> >> I meant turn the chord into a different one by holding it down on the MIDI >> keyboard and hitting Enter. If you have any notes that have been >> enharmonically flipped in the original chord, then the spelling can act >> weird in the new chord. Obviously, this will show better if there ARE >> altered notes in the new chord. It happens regardless if the staff is >> transposing or not. Chromatic transposition brings a whole new level of >> crazy in as well, but the problems I outline happen on concert staves. If >> you are having trouble getting it to show, try diminished 7th chords, flip >> a few notes (more than once on the same chord) and then try to enter a >> different diminished chord by hitting Enter. Are all the spellings correct >> according to the settings you use? >> >> This may behave differently if Enharmonic Spelling options are set to Use >> Spelling Tables or Use Default Spelling. I haven't really explored it, >> because I consider the 9 key to be broken now. I only need to be bitten >> once to dismiss the whole thing. I don't want to have to keep going back >> and verifying spellings in my pieces because one (or more!) may have >> flipped when I wasn't looking. >> >> Christopher >> >> >> On Fri Oct 12, at FridayOct 12 10:09 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: >> >>> That simple procedure (in Fin2012) presents no problems for me. Does the >>> staff need to be a transposing staff? I don't really understand what you >>> mean by "repitch it by holding down a new chord on the MIDI keyboard and >>> hitting Enter." When I do what I read you to be saying, nothing happens, >> so >>> there must be a step I'm missing. >>> >>> To confirm once again, we are talking about Fin2012, right? >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Christopher Smith < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Try hitting 9 twice or more while on a chord. Then repitch it by holding >>>> down a new chord on the MIDI keyboard and hitting Enter. Are the note >>>> spelled as expected? Try exploding it. Are the notes still spelled >>>> correctly? About quarter to half the time the bug shows in my >> experience. I >>>> don't use chromatic transposition all that often, but I still see >> problems >>>> in normally-transposed and concert staves. >>>> >>>> Usually in a single note part, hitting 9 once on a note is okay. But do >>>> you remember EVERY note you have invoked the 9 key on? Going back and >>>> changing pitches in parts (which I do with depressing regularity) >> causes me >>>> to see this bug all the time. >>>> >>>> Christopher >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri Oct 12, at FridayOct 12 9:03 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Chuck, >>>>> >>>>> I believe you always work with key signatures, though, correct? As far >>>> as I know, the problem affects only staves set to chromatic >> transposition. >>>>> >>>>> If there is anyone on the list who: >>>>> >>>>> (A) routinely uses scores where instruments are set to use chromatic >>>> (not key signature) transposition... >>>>> >>>>> ... and... >>>>> >>>>> (B) *used* to experience problems using the 9 key to flip enharmonics >>>> under previous versions of Finale... >>>>> >>>>> ... and... >>>>> >>>>> (C) no longer experiences that problem with Fin2012... >>>>> >>>>> ... I'd really love to hear from them! >>>>> >>>>> Like Christopher and Robert, I was badly burned by the 9-key bug when >> it >>>> was first introduced and quickly adopted workarounds so that I could >> avoid >>>> the 9 key entirely. >>>>> >>>>> Once bitten, twice shy, so I've always been incredibly reluctant to go >>>> back to my old habits and see if the problem has been fixed. But the >>>> workarounds *are* a pain, so like Robert, I am curious whether anyone >> else >>>> in a similar situation can report back one way or the other. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> - DJA >>>>> ----- >>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Chuck Israels <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I too, am puzzled. It seems to work for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Steve Parker <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But I never hit the 9 key any more. It's broken beyond use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't understand this? 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