Hi Jef, Weird, but as designed, I believe. I may be able to help you make some sense of it.
The suggested implementation of v1/v2 is for the v2 note(s) not to be a greater cumulative rhythmic value than the v1 note they are launched from. The terminology from early documentation was (I believe) v2 notes should be "in the realm" of their v1 notes. So, if I had a half note in one voice, and a dotted quarter and 8th in the other, I would make the half note v1 and the dq+8th v2. The main reason for this is stem direction, which I'll get to in a bit. In each of your examples you launched v2 from a v1 quarter note and exceeded that realm by the 2nd beat of the measure. Not a terrible problem in a simple example like this, or until you see how you are able to control stem direction. I didn't explain it very well earlier, but the cursor position does dictate stem direction of both v1 and v2. Its position in relation to the v1 note is the key: below v1 and v2 will be stems down; above v1 and v2 will be stem up; in each instance, the v1 stems will flip automatically if needed. In your two examples I would usually opt for layers, but using voices, with 4 quarters in each voice, proper stem direction would be easiest to achieve by launching each v2 quarter from the realm of the quarter with which it shares a beat, and when launching, positioning the cursor below E in example #1, and above B in example #2. In example #1 the E down stem flips up when the v2 B is entered. If you continue entering the remainder of v2 in the realm of the E on beat 1, the v1 Es on beats 2, 3 & 4 will not flip up. (This stem behavior is not documented on the page I found on line in the 2011 manual.) Play with it some--it might come in useful One caveat I should mention is that some seconds are not spaced properly. In that case, thank God for layers! :) Best, Don On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:18 PM, SN jef chippewa < [email protected]> wrote: > > hi don, makes sense i suppose mainly for smaller fragments. the > score i am curently working on has 2 layters/voices both full > measure, maybe this is part of the reason i find it frustrating. in > a few instances with just a beat or something split in voices i found > it easier to manage. > > i don't see the behaviour you mention for stem up/down. > > the behaviour seems to be that voice 2 has to be the higher one: > - v2, when entered higher than v1, will have all stems up for the > entire v2 passage > - v2, when entered lower than v1, will have stems up only for the > first beat of v1 > > e.g. enter: > 1) v1 E5 for 4 quarters (stems are down by default) > 2) v2 B5 for 4 quarters > = 4 B's 4 stems up; 4 E's stems down > > but enter: > 1) v1 B5 for 4 quarters (stems are down by default) > 2) v2 E5 for 4 quarters > = B on 1st beat stem up, 3 other B's stems down; 4 E's stems down > > weird. no? > > cheers, > jef > > >I use probably voicees more than layers. They're great for partial > >measures. I always put the larger note value in voice one and the > >smaller values in voice two, so it's easy to come back and figure > >out which is which. The stem direction is very predictable: put the > >cursor below the note and the stem goes down, above the note and it > >goes up. Editing can be tricky at times; I guess I've gotten used to > >it though. > > -- > > NEW RELEASE!!! neueweise -- fonts for new music and traditional notation > http://newmusicnotation.com/fonts > > shirling & neueweise | http://newmusicnotation.com > new music notation + translation + arts management > [FB] http://facebook.com/neueweise | [TW] http://twitter.com/neueweise > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: [email protected]
