On 03/1/12 11:43 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:29:54 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] .apps in fink > Cc: Jared <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Max Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Ben Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: Bill Bumgarner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 11:22 US/Eastern, Ben Hines wrote: >> On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 08:03 AM, Jared wrote: >>> Using aliases is not Mac-like. Giving users the illusion of moving >>> their apps isn't good enough. Besides, at this point, anyone using >>> Fink isn't going to be stopped by having the item in a hidden >>> directory. (Right-click > Show Original ends that search). >> Using "shortcuts" is not mac-like. Aliases are much more powerful and >> were invented by Apple, couldnt get more mac-like. :) >> >> If we want to support moving apps, we have no choice. Fink is based on >> dpkg which requires its files stay in one place. > > Why is everyone hung up on MOVING the stupid apps???? Fink does *not* > need to support moving of the apps. If the user wants to 'move' the > apps, they can create copies or links. Done deal. > > Moving apps is only 'mac like' if the mac is single-user and the user > is fully in control. That is no longer the case. Macs are *always* > multiple user. > > Macs in network environments have *always* allowed apps to be installed > in a fixed location that the user could not move the apps. > > Even standalone macs have long supported apps in fixed locations that > cannot be moved; the simple finder type features and the like. > > b.bum Actually moving the apps is a very valid argument. I donšt do it all that much but the first thing two of my friends did when they got their new macs with osx was to completely screw the os:) renaming folders such as [Applications] [thisfolder] etc and moving all their apps around to suit their particular needs/wants/desires. This is how it should be for them, that the OS screwed up majorly is a problem apple should fix as far as they are concerned. It's their Mac and they should be able to do stuff like this to it. I agree with the alias being not that great an idea, as soon as a user sees the alias arrow on the app icon, they will find out why and where it is, then move it to the apps folder or a location of their choosing. Ben points out one interesting fact, Fink is based on dpkg, and this does not support moveable apps. Pretty much end of story there. The only way around this I can see is for fink to install a recipt.pkg when it installs an .app so it can just check there to see if a particular .app is installed without having to worry about where the user has moved it too. Ultimately, you have to factor in one thing, what is the goal of the fink project? Is it to manage everything that is ported in one way or another from any unix platform? Or is it to manage a certain type of porting structure? If you think it should do .app files as well, the code is open source, I'm sure it can be downloaded and modified as you see fit. rand ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com _______________________________________________ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
