On 4/25/2012 9:38 PM, Gary K Olson wrote:
> On 4/25/12 at 6:49 MST, Gary K Olson wrote:
>
>> On Apr 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/25/12 4:22 PM, Gary K Olson wrote:
>>>> I realized that there were now enough files available for Lion to run 
>>>> gnome-panel, so I downloaded and set things up to run rootless without 
>>>> metacity. However, I have no window frames. I also have to to start 
>>>> gnome-settings-daemon from an xterm. When I set the settings-daemon up to 
>>>> run from a  zz-gnome-session.sh, the daemon runs initially but crashes 
>>>> upon complete setup of gnome-panel.
>>>>
>>>> The only preferences I can change are the file system. While I was able to 
>>>> compile files like gnome-themes and gnome-themes-glossy-p, I have nothing 
>>>> in preferences that lets me change themes or adjust windows.  I expect I 
>>>> have failed to compile some needed files or they are not yet available on 
>>>> Lion.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any idea why the windows do not have frames or why I only 
>>>> have file management preferences?  Thanks for any help.
>>>>
>>>> Gary K Olson
>>>>
>>>> My kit is:
>>>> 10.7.3
>>>> Xcode 4.3.2
>>>> Package manager version: 0.32.6
>>>> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Wed Apr 25 13:45:48 2012, 10.7, 
>>>> x86_64
>>>> Trees: local/main stable/main
>>>> i686-apple-darwin11-llvm-gcc-4.2 (GCC) 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 
>>>> 5658) (LLVM build 2336.9.00)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I assume that you're lacking frames because you're not actually running
>>> a window manager.   If you just have e.g. "gnome-panel" in a .xinitrc
>>> file then that is _all_ that gets run, because .xinitrc overrides rather
>>> than appends to what the default X11 launch does.
>>>
>>> A mechanism to customize your X11 setup which is now preferred is
>>> discussed in:
>>>
>>> http://finkers.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/finks-xinitrc-gnome-and-kde/

>> I have the setup mentioned in the article, but I can't run metacity with 
>> gnome-panels, because metacity is not available on 10.7. Could I run 
>> quartz-wm at that point in script?  I don't believe any other window manager 
>> is available on 10.7 yet.
>>
>> I started quartz-wm at that point in script before replying, and everything 
>> seems to be running now including gnome-panel. I assumed before that if I 
>> did not run another wm in the script, then quartz-wm would run. Silly me. 
>> Thanks for the help on the window frames. I still do not know why other 
>> preferences don't show up, but I am guessing that there are gnome files not 
>> yet available on Lion which are causing the problem.

metacity builds on 10.7 with only minor changes to the .info, but it 
crashes on startup, which is why it has not been added to 10.7. That 
aside, I've built the rest of bundle-gnome on 10.7 (dasher builds but 
runs awful though that could be a problem between the keyboard and 
chair). Running gnome-session with quartz-wm works, but the panel 
misbehaves and likes to cover up window title bars. Maybe a truer x11 wm 
might behave better.

Hanspeter

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