First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List ......................................................................... Ok - Just rememberd no attachments - SORRY
Here is my message - Send me your email addy and I will send you the pic if you need it. Bo, > >I've been lurking on this thread for awhile now, and just found an old pic that may (or may not) help you. This is my 68 Firebird in 1982. As you can guess, I was replacing the motor - I had a pushrod jump out on me and decided (tender age of 23) to rebuild the entire motor Anyway - Look closely at the Drivers Side Firewall. If you zoom in you will see the red wire for the alternator and next to it the green wire for the temp sender. I thought I remembered it this way, but this helps (at least in my mind) confirm it, at least for '68. Another thing to consider - Not 100%, but engineering basics support this: I have rewired my '68 Convert with the Front Lamp Harness, Engine Harness and Rear Lamp Harness. If you look at the two harnesses where they meet the fuse box at the firewall, you will see that the engine harness (as you face the firewall from the engine side, is on the left side. That harness does NOT contain (when it leaves the fuse box) the temp sending wire. If you look at the harness on the right side, you see the front lamp harness. This harness DOES contain the temp sending wire, as well as the wires for the alternator, regulator and horn relay. Common sense and engineering basics tell me that to route the temp sending wire over the valve covers, means that that wire (and practically only that wire) MUST come out of the Front Lamp Harness AT THE FIREWALL and find it's way up to the engine block to be wired along the valve cover. In my feeble mind, the engineers aren't going to do that. Why? Because you can't mess with the pinning of the fuse box, it is what it is. So the temp sending wire (being located in that part of the fuse box) would naturally follow the Front Lamp Harness and be part of the loom that leaves that harness and goes toward the alternator. Viola' Hope this helps - If the pic does not come through attached, send me your email addy and I will send you the pic. By the way - My baby was stolen May 8, 1984, never to be seen again. Finders fee for vin 223378U100805. I still have the pink... Best Regards, > >John Gragg >68 Vert 400 >Riverside, CA --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Bo Svenson <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Bo Svenson <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FGF] 68 engine wire photo > To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:27 PM > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing > List > ......................................................................... > Jim, > > American Auto Wire doesn't differentiate between Ram Air I, > II, or III. And > they get away with this! Amazing... > > Bo > > > > From: Jim <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: First Generation Firebird-L <[email protected]> > > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:05:36 -0800 (PST) > > To: First Generation Firebird-L <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [FGF] 68 engine wire photo > > > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > > > ......................................................................... > > Bo, > > > > Did Am Auto wire have a different part number for the > harness for the Ram Air > > I versus the regular 400? I can't imagine why they > would not run the wires > > along the valve cover like on the 69 unless the ram > air stuff is in the way of > > something. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Hugo Tafel <[email protected]> > > To: First Generation Firebird-L <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 4:40:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [FGF] 68 engine wire photo > > > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > > > ......................................................................... > > My 67 400 is fairly original and the wires travel > alongside the valve > > cover/intake manifold to the generator. I don't > believe that they changed the > > routing for 68 but I could be wrong (my 69's are the > same way) > > > > Hugo > > > > --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Bo Svenson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > From: Bo Svenson <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [FGF] 68 engine wire photo > > To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <[email protected]> > > Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 9:04 PM > > > > > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > > > ......................................................................... > > Hey Timothy, > > > > I appreciate your reply - and you're right. The > Manual contains great > > diagrams (which reveal what connects to what but they > don't reveal the > > LOCATION of the wires) and an illustration in which > the subject wires APPEAR > > to be alongside the valve cover, but American Auto > Wire insists that the > > subject wires were placed in the harness that is under > the driver fender and > > reappears at a point in line with the generator. > > > > I'd like to know for sure where the wires go. Don't > want to spend all this > > time and money and have someone say "That ain't > right..." > > > > Bo > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Submissions to Firebird-L: <[email protected]> > > Unsubscribe from Firebird-L: <[email protected]> > > Help: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/Firebird-L.html> > > > > Classifieds: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/ubb/> > > Owner Pictures: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Submissions to Firebird-L: <[email protected]> > > Unsubscribe from Firebird-L: <[email protected]> > > Help: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/Firebird-L.html> > > > > Classifieds: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/ubb/> > > Owner Pictures: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Submissions to Firebird-L: <[email protected]> > Unsubscribe from Firebird-L: <[email protected]> > Help: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/Firebird-L.html> > > Classifieds: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/ubb/> > Owner Pictures: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Submissions to Firebird-L: <[email protected]> Unsubscribe from Firebird-L: <[email protected]> Help: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/Firebird-L.html> Classifieds: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/ubb/> Owner Pictures: <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/>
