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I have Pete Serio's Vintage Hurst Shifters book, and I highly recommend it.  
The bodies were basically the same, the important number is the handle which 
was #5325 and only available on 68-69 birds and 69 Camaros.  Very rare shifter. 
 The body had a special offset receiver to move the shifter handle towards the 
center of the trans tunnel.  Again, this is only found on the 68-69 birds and 
69 camaros.  Some bodies said "competition plus" and some just said Hurst.  
Again, I would get the book, it will answer all your questions.  ISBN 
0-9749004-0-0

Dino

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Subject: Re: [FGF] 4 speed Hurst shifter

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Regarding getting the handle out of the shifter bracket, Hurst recommends 
sticking a thin blade or the like down the shifter shaft to depress the shims 
so the handle will come out. This does work, but you have to apply a little 
more force than Hurst leads you to believe is necessary.

Jim
'68 Convertible

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From: "Michael Staley" <[email protected]>
To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 10:42:18 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [FGF] 4 speed Hurst shifter

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Original factory shifter bodies generally have the numbers 3138 in the back of 
them.  This means that it is a shifter without stop bolts.  (Hurst Competition 
Plus shifters with stop bolts are generally aftermarket shifters.)  If you 
remove the stick, I have read that the stick number for a 68 Firebird 4-speed 
with a M-20 Muncie is 5325 which will be exposed when the stick is removed.  
(You'll need a tool--forget exactly what to remove it.)  The 3138 body and 5325 
stick should work even if the date code of the shifter is too early or late.  
(You may not need to remove the stick if it works ok when installed and you 
have a 3138 shifter body.)

If you read thru the attached link, you will see the restored shifter for my 
Judge in post #12:
http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381026&highlight=shifter+date+code
1968-69 GTO's apparently use a different shifter stick which is #5324 if I 
remember correctly.  You may want to also note the correct shifter rods as 
there are aftermarket rods that are different.

As noted in the thread above, these shifters should also have date codes and 
batch numbers printed on the same line (Hurst numbers as you describe them as 
there are no GM numbers on these shifters.)  They are somewhat difficult to 
understand, but not impossible.  I suggest that if you still have questions to 
call Pete Serio at Precision Pontiac.  Pete is the authority on these.  He 
restored my shifter and may have what you need if you do not.  Others sell 
shifters that are cleaned up, but Pete sells restored shifters with all parts 
replated properly.  He is the best there is.



--- On Sun, 1/3/10, Dan Dominick <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Does anyone know what the original Hurst shifter looked
> like for 68 Munice 4 speeds (on a 400 HO)? The car
> came with a new Competition Plus Hurst shifter installed and
> an old Hurst shift in a box. But the old one says
> Competition Plus on it, too, with no GM numbers. (And
> the original Hurst 3 speed shifter on my 68 Sprint doesn't
> have GM numbers on it either, but doesn't have anything else
> except a Hurst number on it.) Anyone know what's
> correct?
> 
> 





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