A lot of people on the list are responding like Stonesoft is somebody
new to the game.

They are not.

They are (or were) the largest installer and trainer of Checkpoint
firewalls in Europe until they released their firewall product.

It is my understanding that their lawsuit is a response to Checkpoint's
heavy-handed attempt to remove FullCluster from the OPSEC certified list
and removing StoneSoft's designation as a Checkpoint trainer (read
anti-competitive).

I am not inviting a conversion about this issue, so don't bother.  This
is just my understanding.

The product itself is very similar to Checkpoint, with respect to
stateful firewalling. 

However, I saw a lot of promise in how it handles both clustering,
management, and installation.  

Management (and logging) can be redundant and installing additional
nodes in a cluster takes about 30 minutes (literally).  You can use
cheap Intel boxes and have a very scalable firewall cluster.  The
management and logging server are Java-based.  You actually configure
the nodes in the cluster using the management server, then load the
software/OS onto the nodes and retrieve the config info.  I found that a
very interesting concept.

You install OS and firewall software as one component.  They use
Debian-based Linux, and in my opinion, the package was more secure then
the Nokia/IPSO/BSD package for FW-1 with which I am more familiar.

When I went through the Beta, they had yet to make the VPN work and
there were some other minor bugs.  I went through the beta about two
months before they released to the public.

I don't know if those problems were fixed or not (I would assume they
are).

Ready for primetime?  Couldn't tell you, I also am still waiting for the
post-release demo I was promised.

Ben



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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:38 AM
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Subject: Stonegate Firewall ( what do you think? )

I wanna know what people out there think about the Stonegate Firewall
product.  Is it good?  Do people actually use it?  Are there people that
*dont't* like it?  Etc.  Etc.

Thanks

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