I feel the "paying-beta-tester" slam is a little out of line, especially
when the alternative is "a more stable and more mature product." I realize
that in the security arena, new typically means "not as secure," but I still
think this is a bit too much of a slam. Unless you have used the product
and have specific points to point out against it, please refrain from such
juvenile posts. Furthermore, your link where "...even Stonesoft's customers
have their doubts..." seems more of a complaint against marketing drivel
being posted to a technical list than an expression of doubt over
Stonegate's abilities in the firewalling arena.
I read your post and it comes across somewhat ridiculing the original
poster. If you can't give good reason for not using a product beyond the
fact that it is new and untested by the community at large, I don't see why
you feel the need to treat someone asking about it as if they are an
uninformed idiot.
Randy Graham
--
You're kind of trying to pick between "horible disaster" and "attrocious
disaster" -- Paul D. Robertson (on VNC vs. PPTP)
http://www.securitynewbie.com/ - for people like me
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Hoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 4:09 PM
> To: Slade Edmonds
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Stonegate Firewall ( what do you think? )
>
>
> Slade Edmonds wrote:
> >
> > I wanna know what people out there think about the
> Stonegate Firewall
> > product. Is it good? Do people actually use it? Are
> there people that
> > *dont't* like it? Etc. Etc.
>
> StoneGate is actually a new guy in the firewalls arena... (March 2001)
> So, you probably will be one of the first people around the world
> using it... It's up to you to be a "paying-beta-tester" or use a more
> stable and more mature product (I guess you already know the names).
>
> See, even Stonesoft's customers have their doubts about seeing an
> HA company (in which they do it very well) now trying to make
> firewalls...
> http://msgs.securepoint.com/cgi-bin/get/stonebeat-0104/18/1.html
>
> I saw a demo past days... and lots of features (at least the GUI
> ones, and some others about functionality) seems very similar to the
> Check Point's Next Generation ones... any way, I think the new
> Check Point's GUI is more cute... ;-)
> http://www.checkpoint.com/products/ng/ngui.html
>
> Another thing: they seem to prefer to fight at courts, rather than
> push their technology and let the market decide:
> http://www.stonesoft.com/press-releases/856.html
> Sounds to me like a desperate company trying to make their numbers...
>
> You can try it anyway. Nothing to lose... ;-)
>
> Best regards.
>
> --
> Martin H. Hoz-Salvador
> EX-A-IEC, EX-A-FIME
> http://gama.fime.uanl.mx/~mhoz
>
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