"Graham, Randy (RAW)" wrote:
> 
> I feel the "paying-beta-tester" slam is a little out of line, especially
> when the alternative is "a more stable and more mature product."  I realize
> that in the security arena, new typically means "not as secure," but I still
> think this is a bit too much of a slam.  Unless you have used the product

Ok, just for the clarificatoin sake. I feel a "paying-beta-tester" when
I pay for a product which I know it could be functional, or it could 
be not... Who knows? 

It happened so many times in the past, so I'm a bit scary about new
stuff, specially when I've to pay for it (in a sense or another)

> and have specific points to point out against it, please refrain from such
> juvenile posts.  Furthermore, your link where "...even Stonesoft's customers

I've seen what I said that in a live demo. 

> have their doubts..." seems more of a complaint against marketing drivel
> being posted to a technical list than an expression of doubt over
> Stonegate's abilities in the firewalling arena.

You should go to the bottom of page... :-)

Do you think this is a complain about the marketing drive?
"Are we to take this seriously? To me StoneSoft's primary focus has 
always been to provide High Availability at a Firewall level. They do
this 
very well. I actually run several StoneBeat /CheckPoint pairs & clusters
myself."

I think you should read a bit more carefully... :-)


> I read your post and it comes across somewhat ridiculing the original
> poster.  If you can't give good reason for not using a product beyond the
> fact that it is new and untested by the community at large, I don't see why
> you feel the need to treat someone asking about it as if they are an
> uninformed idiot.

No way!!!  If you think so, is up to you.. but my original intention
was only to express *my* opinions, thoughts and findings... 

Best regards...

-- 
Martin H. Hoz-Salvador
EX-A-IEC, EX-A-FIME
http://gama.fime.uanl.mx/~mhoz

"Daddy, Why doesn't this Magnet pick up this Floppy Disk?"
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