At 13:29 10/07/01 -0400, Graham, Randy (RAW) wrote:
>I feel the "paying-beta-tester" slam is a little out of line, especially
>when the alternative is "a more stable and more mature product." I realize
>that in the security arena, new typically means "not as secure," but I still
>think this is a bit too much of a slam.
yes, and after all, these args are all wrong:)
It simply means people's behaviour is the same as in "real" life. They follow
what other do, because it requires resources (and courage?) to judge by
themselves.
I dunno anything about stonestuff, but there is nothing on earth that seems to
prove that FW1 is better than their product or anything else.
So the only way is:
- can one get infos on their product?
if no, break; else continue:
- can one decide whether it is good or bad?
if no, break; else continue:
- if bad, say it. if good say it.
Remember that one day all these products were new. yes, they're now old,
some may say mature, but they all got their bugs and will get yet undiscovered
ones.
I'm amazed that this reaction is different from that of people supporting qmail
and postfix and saying that sendmail should be abandoned....
> Unless you have used the product
>and have specific points to point out against it, please refrain from such
>juvenile posts.
this is something people often forget! (I include myself boys).
>[snip: reasonable (to me) things]
I'd add:
- the court question: many respeactable companies have been in court. This
may not be
used as an arg against a company. The old "let us fight on a techno basis"
is just utopic.
You can always try to fight against a "strong" company like MS, if you see
what I mean.
And anyway, Checkpoint spent years fighting on non-technical things...
- next generation gui: I always laugh hard when I hear the "next
generation" 2-words. I always
considered that this is addressed to dumb people who get excited by shiny
ads. My answer will
always be the same: don't gimme next generation things, gimme things that work.
(Martin, this isn't against you personally, but you used args that don't
stand for me...).
cheers,
mouss
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