Greetings all,

I, too, like the seed of this new discussion; although I recommend slight
modifications of the question.  Frankly, I think it is undeniable that there
is a degree of orderliness, and a degree of disorder, in Nature.  I also
think we would all agree that Nature constantly constructs new order, even
as it actively deconstructs other instances of orderliness.  The timely
questions in my mind include:

To what degree is Nature orderly and how does this degree change over time?

How can we best describe the dynamical turnover of order/disorder within
Nature at large?

Regards,

Guy Hoelzer



on 5/22/08 8:56 AM, Pedro Clemente Marijuan Fernandez at
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> Dear FIS colleagues,
> 
> It is a long time that we do not have discussions in the list. I have not been
> able to arrange any other "planned session" after Bob Logan's one, due to work
> reasons (changing to a new job months ago). It is not sure at all that in a
> few weeks there will be a new session arranged. However, several weeks ago,
> Stan suggested starting an open, informal discussion around a simple question:
> 
> Is Nature Orderly?
> 
> As a side comment (or response of sorts), I quote from P.M. Binder: "The field
> of complex systems currently appears as an unfinished mosaic. Many capable
> researchers are polishing and gluing the tiles that may turn it into the queen
> of all sciences, the science of synthesis and surprise. As we realize how much
> everything is connected, both cooperation [or emergence] and dynamical
> frustration can become important tools for our understanding of how the world
> works." (2008, Nature, 320, pp. 320-21)... just substituting information
> science for complex systems, and another couple of terms (more subtle ones I
> do not see yet) for cooperation and dynamical frustration, it becomes my first
> reaction to Stan's.
> 
> By the way, small organization initiatives are in the way, e.g., financing for
> a FIS European meeting has been applied by Wolfgang and others  (around
> November there will be confirmation).  More will follow.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Pedro
> 
> PS. Interested parties may take note of my new address:
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