-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:52 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...
I wouldn't disagree with you at all on that Paul. I might disagree about the numbers in "minority" especially given the porn variable, but I don't think it raises the number into the majority by any means. But that doesn't diminish what you've said here, FlashObject has been very easy to integrate and use. On 4/10/06, Paul Neave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wholeheartedly recommend using Flash Object for embedding Flash into > HTML. Yes, it means those with JavaScript disabled will get the > 'alternative version', but in all honesty, in these days of AJAX and > standards-compliance, people who disable JavaScript are in the tiny > minority. > > The benefits (customisability, compatibility, upgradability etc.) of > using Flash Object greatly outweigh the disadvantages. I'd love to see > Adobe recommend the use of Flash Object over the current standard of > an ugly combined <object> and <embed> tags. > > On another note, it's actually considered good practice to have > JavaScript create any 'active content', that way the code falls down > gracefully and those with non-capable browsers get an alternative > view. > > Just my opinion! > Paul. > > > On 10/04/06, GregoryN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Last year I worked with a client's employee, who had both javascript > > and cookies turned off. > > At first, I couldn't understand why he's doing so. My thoughts were > > exactly as Steven's . > > But some day he's dropped few words and I've got it: he's porn > > surfer! And he was using office computer for it :-). > > > > So, here's the example motivation to turn JS off. > > > > As to the point, I guess we still can use NOSCRIPT tag, can't we? > > Yes, it will require activation in IE7, but seems it's the only way. > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > GregoryN > > ================================ > > http://GOusable.com > > Flash components development. > > Usability services. > > > > On 4/9/06, Steven Sacks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You also have to consider what users are turning off Javascript. > > > > > > First, Javascript is turned on by default. Second, you have to be > somewhat > > > savvy to know what Javascript is, much less turn it off, and also > > > know > what > > > purpose turning it off serves. Third, you need to have a reason > > > to > turn it > > > off. These things combined means that people who turn off > > > Javascript > are > > > more than likely well aware of the consequences of this action, > > > it's > not > > > just Flash that's effected. It's pretty much any plug-in and any > DHTML > > > site. Almost every site on the web uses Javascript now in some > > > form > or > > > another. I wonder just how many people turn off Javascript and > > > are > they > > > really worth going after? They obviously want a very limited and > controlled > > > web experience. > > > > > > It's like trying to advertise on cable television channels to > > > people > who > > > only have antenna reception. You're just not going to reach that > > > very > small > > > audience, so get over it. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com > -- John Grden - Blitz _______________________________________________ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com _______________________________________________ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
