Alex What AIR version you are running?
Stefan Horochovec 2012/10/19 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > Changing vote to -1 because of locale issue. > > > On 10/19/12 8:05 AM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > I'm not going to change my vote at this point, but consider these points: > > > > 1) Why would doing a point release right after be less work and get more > > involvement? > > 2) Why do we think we will get two other mentor/IPMC votes if they review > > the dev-list and see this issue? > > 3) Why do we think we will get mentor/IPMC attention again right away > with a > > follow-up point release > > 4) I have seen this issue twice in English, but wasn't able to reproduce > it. > > 5) I would rather the next installer release coincide with a new Apache > Flex > > SDK release like a 4.8.1 in a month or so from now. > > > > To me, 7 RC's is not a lot. Sometimes, important bugs get found late in > the > > game. Sure, it is frustrating, but you will certainly get enough PPMC > votes > > on an RC8. However, right now we are waiting on getting IPMC votes and I > > don't know why they would vote just to get something out the door if it > > isn't handling strings properly. > > > > > > On 10/19/12 5:51 AM, "Stefan Horochovec" <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> The installer works, as I spent the walkthrough in JIRA and in my last > >> email, that information may be contained on the page to access the > >> Installer. > >> > >> I upgraded my vote to -1 because I have found a bug. I shared the same > >> opinion of Christophe Herreman, it´s my opinion too. Where he said: > >> > >> "I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just worried that this will lead to > >> frustration and a feeling of low quality coming from Apache Flex to the > >> users." > >> > >> But I also agree with you that we need this release which is being > awaited > >> for so long, and for sure will help many people to have the new Apache > Flex > >> SDK. > >> > >> Erik and Om > >> > >> I opened a ticket [1] in JIRA with the comparison of the translations of > >> languages available today, and put them separate group with all the > >> messages. I would suggest this as the default for new messages, to make > it > >> easier to find what should be done the translation, because when you > add a > >> new key, you can already tag them in an area of translation for each > >> language. The work of comparing one by one consuming too much time. > >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33224 > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Stefan Horochovec > >> > >> > >> 2012/10/19 Christophe Herreman <christophe.herre...@gmail.com> > >> > >>> OK all, thanks for the feedback. I agree that we need to release often > and > >>> early, although in certain cases it doesn't feel quite right. > >>> > >>> Since there are no blocking issues, a release is justified I guess. > >>> > >>> +1 (binding) > >>> > >>> regards, > >>> Christophe > >>> > >>> 2012/10/19 Om <bigosma...@gmail.com> > >>> > >>>> This issue will be fixed in the next release. > >>>> > >>>> I know and agree that this is not perfect, but we cannot delay a > release > >>>> till we get everything perfect. We will never release anything if we > >>> wait > >>>> to fix every issue that we discover. > >>>> > >>>> This is not a release blocker issue, nor does it have security > >>>> implications. We cannot delay the release any longer especially > after so > >>>> many people have voted for the release. > >>>> > >>>> The patch has been contributed and it will be committed asap. We > will be > >>>> making a follow up release soon. Also, we are shipping with an auto > >>> update > >>>> mechanism that will ensure that folks get the subsequent releases for > >>> sure. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Om > >>>> On Oct 19, 2012 1:57 AM, "Christophe Herreman" < > >>>> christophe.herre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Sorry about this, but why would you release the installer in it's > >>> current > >>>>> state? I know there is a lot of "pressure" and excitement to get this > >>>>> released, but there are currently clearly some bigger issues with the > >>>>> proposed RC in terms of translations. > >>>>> > >>>>> IMO it's better to delay the release until the most serious issues > are > >>>>> fixed than to release now, knowing that it will cause problems for > >>>> (perhaps > >>>>> a minor part of ) the users. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just worried that this will lead > to > >>>>> frustration and a feeling of low quality coming from Apache Flex to > the > >>>>> users. > >>>>> > >>>>> kind regards, > >>>>> Christophe > >>>>> > >>>>> 2012/10/19 Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Yes...please, release.... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2012/10/19 Omar Gonzalez <omarg.develo...@gmail.com>: > >>>>>>> Release, release, release!!! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -omar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 18, 2012, Erik de Bruin wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Stefan, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I understand the problem, and I see the implications. That's why I > >>>>>>>> push for a quick "point" update AFTER this release, to adress this > >>>> and > >>>>>>>> other known issues. In fact, I'll enter your fix into the source > >>>> this > >>>>>>>> weekend, if it checks out. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> However, I sense that after 7 (!) release candidates, a kind of > >>>> 'vote > >>>>>>>> fatigue' is setting in. By this I mean that if we do another RC, I > >>>>>>>> think we might not get enough votes just because people will not > >>>>>>>> bother to enter theirs again (and again, and again). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I therefor recommend that we use the votes we now have to do a > >>>>> release. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> EdB > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Stefan Horochovec > >>>>>>>> <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Erik > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It's possible to run the installer in operating systems that > >>> have > >>>>>>>> language > >>>>>>>>> available on Installer and that is different from en_US, > >>> however, > >>>>>> have to > >>>>>>>>> be done the process of changing the language of the installer > >>> for > >>>>>> en_US. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If you try to install and don't change the language to en_US, > >>> the > >>>>>>>>> installation dont work. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Log of installation (sorry, in portuguese): > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Buscado o espelho da URL de download do SDK a partir do CGI. > >>>>>>>>> Criando diretório do Apache Flex > >>>>>>>>> Criando diretório temporário > >>>>>>>>> Não foi possível criar o diretório temporário > >>>>>>>>> Instalação abortada > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> And here you can see the steps: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 1 - > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549807/step1.png > >>>>>>>>> 2 - > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549808/step2.png > >>>>>>>>> 3 - > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549809/step3.png > >>>>>>>>> 4 - > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549810/step4.png > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> In my opinion, this is a very critical problem, a time may come > >>>> that > >>>>>>>> affect > >>>>>>>>> a large number of people. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Stefan Horochovec > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2012/10/19 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Stefan, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your contribution! As we discussed, I'll look > >>> into > >>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>> patches as soon as I can, and I'm sure they will prove valid > >>> and > >>>>>>>>>> useful. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Would you agree that if we do an update soon, lack of true > >>>>>>>>>> internationalisation shouldn't be a deal breaker for this first > >>>>>>>>>> release? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> EdB > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Horochovec > >>>>>>>>>> <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> -1 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> My first test was done in an environment in English, but > >>> when I > >>>>>>>> changed > >>>>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>>>>> OS to my local language (Portuguese), to test the > >>> translations, > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> result > >>>>>>>>>>> was not good. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> In step where are defined which license will be accepted, > >>> just > >>>> no > >>>>>>>> option > >>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>> the left appears only when the switch is made the selected > >>>>>> language. > >>>>>>>> Ex: > >>>>>>>>>>> change to english, and then go back to my default language. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I submitted the bug in JIRA, and also submitted a patch > >>> (which > >>>> if > >>>>>>>>>> accepted) > >>>>>>>>>>> causes the installer to load the translation of default > >>>> language > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> installer and then load the installation user's language, so > >>>> when > >>>>>>>> getting > >>>>>>>>>>> some text missing will interface with all texts, some not > >>>>>> translated. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> This whole environment is only valid when the Installer is > >>>>> launched > >>>>>>>> on an > >>>>>>>>>>> operating system that contains a translation and the same is > >>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> by > >>>>>>>>>>> the installer before being read keys for translation into > >>>>> English. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33223 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Stefan Horochovec > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2012/10/18 Om <bigosma...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I will wait one more day for Dave Fisher to vote here. > >>> After > >>>>>> that I > >>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>> post the vote thread on general. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Om > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Carol Frampton < > >>>>>> cfram...@adobe.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Carlos Rovira > >>>>>> Director de Tecnología > >>>>>> M: +34 607 22 60 05 > >>>>>> F: +34 912 35 57 77 > >>>>>> http://www.codeoscopic.com > >>>>>> http://www.directwriter.es > >>>>>> http://www.avant2.es > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Christophe Herreman > >>>>> http://www.herrodius.com > >>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org > >>>>> http://www.as3commons.org > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Christophe Herreman > >>> http://www.herrodius.com > >>> http://www.springactionscript.org > >>> http://www.as3commons.org > >>> > > -- > Alex Harui > Flex SDK Team > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >
