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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AlmwX75RqM Stefan Horochovec 2012/10/19 Stefan Horochovec <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> > Alex > > What AIR version you are running? > > > Stefan Horochovec > > > > > 2012/10/19 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > >> Changing vote to -1 because of locale issue. >> >> >> On 10/19/12 8:05 AM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >> >> > I'm not going to change my vote at this point, but consider these >> points: >> > >> > 1) Why would doing a point release right after be less work and get more >> > involvement? >> > 2) Why do we think we will get two other mentor/IPMC votes if they >> review >> > the dev-list and see this issue? >> > 3) Why do we think we will get mentor/IPMC attention again right away >> with a >> > follow-up point release >> > 4) I have seen this issue twice in English, but wasn't able to >> reproduce it. >> > 5) I would rather the next installer release coincide with a new Apache >> Flex >> > SDK release like a 4.8.1 in a month or so from now. >> > >> > To me, 7 RC's is not a lot. Sometimes, important bugs get found late >> in the >> > game. Sure, it is frustrating, but you will certainly get enough PPMC >> votes >> > on an RC8. However, right now we are waiting on getting IPMC votes and >> I >> > don't know why they would vote just to get something out the door if it >> > isn't handling strings properly. >> > >> > >> > On 10/19/12 5:51 AM, "Stefan Horochovec" <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Hello everybody, >> >> >> >> The installer works, as I spent the walkthrough in JIRA and in my last >> >> email, that information may be contained on the page to access the >> >> Installer. >> >> >> >> I upgraded my vote to -1 because I have found a bug. I shared the same >> >> opinion of Christophe Herreman, it´s my opinion too. Where he said: >> >> >> >> "I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just worried that this will lead to >> >> frustration and a feeling of low quality coming from Apache Flex to the >> >> users." >> >> >> >> But I also agree with you that we need this release which is being >> awaited >> >> for so long, and for sure will help many people to have the new Apache >> Flex >> >> SDK. >> >> >> >> Erik and Om >> >> >> >> I opened a ticket [1] in JIRA with the comparison of the translations >> of >> >> languages available today, and put them separate group with all the >> >> messages. I would suggest this as the default for new messages, to >> make it >> >> easier to find what should be done the translation, because when you >> add a >> >> new key, you can already tag them in an area of translation for each >> >> language. The work of comparing one by one consuming too much time. >> >> >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33224 >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Stefan Horochovec >> >> >> >> >> >> 2012/10/19 Christophe Herreman <christophe.herre...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >>> OK all, thanks for the feedback. I agree that we need to release >> often and >> >>> early, although in certain cases it doesn't feel quite right. >> >>> >> >>> Since there are no blocking issues, a release is justified I guess. >> >>> >> >>> +1 (binding) >> >>> >> >>> regards, >> >>> Christophe >> >>> >> >>> 2012/10/19 Om <bigosma...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> >>>> This issue will be fixed in the next release. >> >>>> >> >>>> I know and agree that this is not perfect, but we cannot delay a >> release >> >>>> till we get everything perfect. We will never release anything if we >> >>> wait >> >>>> to fix every issue that we discover. >> >>>> >> >>>> This is not a release blocker issue, nor does it have security >> >>>> implications. We cannot delay the release any longer especially >> after so >> >>>> many people have voted for the release. >> >>>> >> >>>> The patch has been contributed and it will be committed asap. We >> will be >> >>>> making a follow up release soon. Also, we are shipping with an auto >> >>> update >> >>>> mechanism that will ensure that folks get the subsequent releases for >> >>> sure. >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks, >> >>>> Om >> >>>> On Oct 19, 2012 1:57 AM, "Christophe Herreman" < >> >>>> christophe.herre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Sorry about this, but why would you release the installer in it's >> >>> current >> >>>>> state? I know there is a lot of "pressure" and excitement to get >> this >> >>>>> released, but there are currently clearly some bigger issues with >> the >> >>>>> proposed RC in terms of translations. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> IMO it's better to delay the release until the most serious issues >> are >> >>>>> fixed than to release now, knowing that it will cause problems for >> >>>> (perhaps >> >>>>> a minor part of ) the users. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just worried that this will lead >> to >> >>>>> frustration and a feeling of low quality coming from Apache Flex to >> the >> >>>>> users. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> kind regards, >> >>>>> Christophe >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2012/10/19 Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Yes...please, release.... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 2012/10/19 Omar Gonzalez <omarg.develo...@gmail.com>: >> >>>>>>> Release, release, release!!! >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -omar >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 18, 2012, Erik de Bruin wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Stefan, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I understand the problem, and I see the implications. That's why >> I >> >>>>>>>> push for a quick "point" update AFTER this release, to adress >> this >> >>>> and >> >>>>>>>> other known issues. In fact, I'll enter your fix into the source >> >>>> this >> >>>>>>>> weekend, if it checks out. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> However, I sense that after 7 (!) release candidates, a kind of >> >>>> 'vote >> >>>>>>>> fatigue' is setting in. By this I mean that if we do another RC, >> I >> >>>>>>>> think we might not get enough votes just because people will not >> >>>>>>>> bother to enter theirs again (and again, and again). >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I therefor recommend that we use the votes we now have to do a >> >>>>> release. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> EdB >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Stefan Horochovec >> >>>>>>>> <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> Erik >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> It's possible to run the installer in operating systems that >> >>> have >> >>>>>>>> language >> >>>>>>>>> available on Installer and that is different from en_US, >> >>> however, >> >>>>>> have to >> >>>>>>>>> be done the process of changing the language of the installer >> >>> for >> >>>>>> en_US. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> If you try to install and don't change the language to en_US, >> >>> the >> >>>>>>>>> installation dont work. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Log of installation (sorry, in portuguese): >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Buscado o espelho da URL de download do SDK a partir do CGI. >> >>>>>>>>> Criando diretório do Apache Flex >> >>>>>>>>> Criando diretório temporário >> >>>>>>>>> Não foi possível criar o diretório temporário >> >>>>>>>>> Instalação abortada >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> And here you can see the steps: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> 1 - >> >>>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549807/step1.png >> >>>>>>>>> 2 - >> >>>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549808/step2.png >> >>>>>>>>> 3 - >> >>>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549809/step3.png >> >>>>>>>>> 4 - >> >>>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549810/step4.png >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> In my opinion, this is a very critical problem, a time may come >> >>>> that >> >>>>>>>> affect >> >>>>>>>>> a large number of people. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Stefan Horochovec >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> 2012/10/19 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Stefan, >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your contribution! As we discussed, I'll look >> >>> into >> >>>>> your >> >>>>>>>>>> patches as soon as I can, and I'm sure they will prove valid >> >>> and >> >>>>>>>>>> useful. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Would you agree that if we do an update soon, lack of true >> >>>>>>>>>> internationalisation shouldn't be a deal breaker for this first >> >>>>>>>>>> release? >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> EdB >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Horochovec >> >>>>>>>>>> <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> -1 >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> My first test was done in an environment in English, but >> >>> when I >> >>>>>>>> changed >> >>>>>>>>>> my >> >>>>>>>>>>> OS to my local language (Portuguese), to test the >> >>> translations, >> >>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>> result >> >>>>>>>>>>> was not good. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> In step where are defined which license will be accepted, >> >>> just >> >>>> no >> >>>>>>>> option >> >>>>>>>>>> on >> >>>>>>>>>>> the left appears only when the switch is made the selected >> >>>>>> language. >> >>>>>>>> Ex: >> >>>>>>>>>>> change to english, and then go back to my default language. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I submitted the bug in JIRA, and also submitted a patch >> >>> (which >> >>>> if >> >>>>>>>>>> accepted) >> >>>>>>>>>>> causes the installer to load the translation of default >> >>>> language >> >>>>> of >> >>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>> installer and then load the installation user's language, so >> >>>> when >> >>>>>>>> getting >> >>>>>>>>>>> some text missing will interface with all texts, some not >> >>>>>> translated. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> This whole environment is only valid when the Installer is >> >>>>> launched >> >>>>>>>> on an >> >>>>>>>>>>> operating system that contains a translation and the same is >> >>>>>> detected >> >>>>>>>> by >> >>>>>>>>>>> the installer before being read keys for translation into >> >>>>> English. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33223 >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Stefan Horochovec >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 2012/10/18 Om <bigosma...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will wait one more day for Dave Fisher to vote here. >> >>> After >> >>>>>> that I >> >>>>>>>>>> will >> >>>>>>>>>>>> post the vote thread on general. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Carol Frampton < >> >>>>>> cfram...@adobe.com >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Carlos Rovira >> >>>>>> Director de Tecnología >> >>>>>> M: +34 607 22 60 05 >> >>>>>> F: +34 912 35 57 77 >> >>>>>> http://www.codeoscopic.com >> >>>>>> http://www.directwriter.es >> >>>>>> http://www.avant2.es >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Christophe Herreman >> >>>>> http://www.herrodius.com >> >>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org >> >>>>> http://www.as3commons.org >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Christophe Herreman >> >>> http://www.herrodius.com >> >>> http://www.springactionscript.org >> >>> http://www.as3commons.org >> >>> >> >> -- >> Alex Harui >> Flex SDK Team >> Adobe Systems, Inc. >> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui >> >> >
