I’ll have to say I do agree with
Scott, I’ve seen any number of companies out there that haven’t got
a clue as to what they currently have, let alone try to bring them into the
same realm. However, I will have to admit, when I started this contract, it was
with the intent of having more hardware, budget has been affected with Flex,
but I’m not sure how much yet. I won’t have a lot of users on the
entire system. I currently have them going into the web server, which connects
to the Flex/J2EE server and a MS SQL Server. I use the MS SQL server as the
back end, the Web server (running .NET) as the middle tier, and the Flex for
UI. With less then 200 users tops on the system, do you think I should buy more
lic. And upgrade to multiple CPU’s? Please tell me how to justify the
expense if this setup isn’t going to work, or is going to be
unsatisfactory. The current footprint on the client is 50K so I’m really
trying to get this thing done ( I hate programs that take more then 64k) Lets get
this thing so that everybody can use it.
James
http://www.24x7-systems.com
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, September 28,
2005 6:19 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex
Server Alternatives
To be blunt, FLEX was
never built for Web Application Developers in the mainstream "web"
environment. Its purpose was to take existing backend systems and provide a
unified view infront of the user, allowing all disparate systems to some how come
together as one, bringing balance to the force so to speak.
Yet, post-release people started to see a lot of potential surrounding FLEX and
its ability to deliver to a much wider audience. That being said, Macromedia
aren't dumb and they do listen to the fact that price is still a sore point for
the web-agency-world and hopefully with Zorn this will also bring a new lease
on life for Flash Platform.
`
I've been absolutely [EMAIL PROTECTED] off with the price when it first hit us, that being
said i've now truly seen what FLEX does in terms of cost savings in much larger
"Enterprise Service" orientated systems, and i'm now retracting my
position, simply put, FLEX is dirt cheap compared to some other systems being
sold on the market today that have less capabilities.
Through FLEX you can spend about $50k USD all up (seems like a lot), yet it
gives you the ability shift perception on how content has been displayed to how
it can be displayed, resulting in a point of difference that most
"competitors" for commercial-grade systems suddenly dont have. On top
of that, it can now allow folks to upgrade mainframes UI that have signs
"Do not Touch" on them (ie they are so old that its hard to find
folks to develop UI enhancments to them, so why not instead employ some java guys
to write an api for it, then use FLEX as your UI?....computer FLEX against the
entire workload ahead of you, and you start seeing its really the smallest
piece in the puzzle).
Point is this, FLEX price model is out of reach for mainstream web, its sad
atm, but it wasn't done for a dastardly reason...it was probably done because
Macromedia didn't want to spread itself too thin amongst the different markets
and needed to keep the eye on the ball (Enterprise would probably generate more
revenue/profits).
Zorn by all appearance is going to shift that, its going to give folks like
yourself the ability to bite into the forbidden fruit. It just requires
patience for its release now :)
On 9/29/05, Anupam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My issue is with the
deployment cost. So the only alternative for small-time Web application
developers is to have their own servers for deployment.
I am surprised that not many people are talking about it. It seems people are
happy with the
status-quo, ie. paying huge amounts to MM.
I am also disappointed that there aren't many more 3rd party providers of Flex
servers.
Anupam.
--- Tracy Spratt <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The issue of cost doesn't affect the developer since you can get the
> perpetual developer license for free.
>
> The cost is a major issue when you go to put a commercial application in
> production, and there is currently no alternative (if using Flex)
>
> You can apply for a non-commercial license if that is your situation.
>
> Tracy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com]
On
> Behalf Of Anupam
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:32 PM
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives
>
> Hi all,
> Is there any alternative to Flex server, except the (very
expensive)
> one provided by MM?
> Are there any other options? Have all the members of this
group who
> are using Flex bought
> it/evaluating it? Or is there any other option like a compatible
> freeware?
>
> I know freeware versions of Flash Remoting do exist, is there
anything
> for Flex?
>
> Thanks,
> Anupam.
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>
> --
> Flexcoders Mailing List
> FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
> Search Archives:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________
Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005
http://mail.yahoo.com
------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~-->
Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM
--------------------------------------------------------------------~->
--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
--
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.mossyblog.com
--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
SPONSORED LINKS
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
