> On a departmental version, if I have 2 single CPU servers(clustered) I 
> would
> need 2 licenses at $6K per CPU.
>
> Does that get me 200 concurrent users?
>
    Nope...

FDS Departmental - $6K per CPU
- 100 concurrent users across cluster
- multiple CPU support
- clustering support

    That's what "across cluster" means, you only get 100 users no matter how 
many licenses you buy. Macrobe seems/seemed to be stuck on artificially 
limiting the number of concurrent users in order to sell more (or more 
expensive) servers.

    Like Ted said: "Most machines fail in supporting a high number of 
concurrent users at the host operating system. Some OS's are more scalable 
than others." Straight from the horse's mouth.

    Most servers don't limit by concurrent users and allow the server to 
handle as many users as the server can handle, at which point you need to 
cluster servers to manage the load. Meanwhile, Adobe wants to limit by 
concurrent users *and* force you to buy more licenses for clustered servers. 
IOW, have their cake and eat it too.

    Personally, I haven't been able to justify it to anyone yet, so I 
haven't been able to sell a single license for the new FDS or FMS servers, 
directly because of the licensing. Conpanies that have plenty of money to 
spend and an adversity to OS software have actually said to me "Isn't there 
an open source one we can use that isn't so restrictive?" They don't have 
any problem shelling out tens of thousands for a server, but are suprised by 
the ridiculous licensing scheme. I'm not losing any money, in fact I'm 
making more money in development hours on the projects because I have to 
come up with other solutions, but Adobe has certainly lost at least a 
million $ worth of business this year because my clients went either to web 
services (standardized) or to a 3rd party solution or some custom solution 
(optimized). And yes, I spent plenty of time working with my local Adobe 
rep, but she was unable to get any kind of sensible licensing scheme 
approved, even with the amounts of money we were talking about.

    I just wonder if they realize how much money they are losing because of 
their licensing schemes.

ryanm 



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