--- Curtis Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hi Shad, > > I run google mail so I went back and searched all > the email threads with > your name in it, and what I saw initially was some > good and fair questions > from you (the new user.) Then I saw the correct > people who knew the answers > jump in with helpful information that pointed you in > the right direction in > a timely manner. > > We aren't perfect here, but I think you should go > back and read through > those early threads and remind yourself what a > friendly, helpful, and > technically solid group of good people we have here. > > I see there was a short discussion on the typical > license terms of "free" > MSFS aircraft and scenery and that all seemed > reasonable. Then Arnt posted > something which started out loosely based on the > original thread and headed > off onto his own personal soap box and that's just > what Arnt does. > > Other than that, I saw a bit of discussion about > some technical aspects of > water landings and suggestions for the default > FlightGear behavior. > > So unless all this happened in private email, I > honestly don't know where > you are getting any of this from? All the > discussion on the public mailing > list that derived from any of your questions or > comments was professional, > courteous, timely, and helpful. > > No one is begging you to use FlightGear (and I'm not > saying it's always > perfect around here) so please do whatever works > best for your situation. > But when I go through the archives to look at all > the responses to all your > specific questions, I see a great group of helpful > people, and that is worth > pointing out once in a while. > > If you want to see an actual example of the sort of > behavior you have > described, try reporting an emacs bug to RMS. :-) > > (And yes, I am deliberately top posting my reply to > see if any of the nice > folks here will flame me.) ;-) > > Curt. > > > On Dec 28, 2007 6:43 PM, Shad Young <> wrote: > > > I have backed out of the commercial project > involving FG. Thanks to the > > attitudes displayed by a few of you here I have no > interest in > > contributing to this sim on any level, nor do I > really wish to be > > involved in this community. > > > > Maybe one of you will pick it up. I hope one of > you does, as you are not > > all bad. Just a few of you, but those few killed > it for me. > > > > Who am I to complain? I have been involved in Free > and Open Source > > software development for some 13 years now. I have > participated in FOSS > > (FSF/OSS) advocacy in depth, including taking on > the fight directly by > > forming a nationwide coalition of Linux users. I > have been named one of > > the Top 25 News makers by IT World for my efforts. > I suspect I am > > actually a bit more passionate and informed about > FOSS than most, if > > not all, of you here. > > > > Having been around for this long, I am rather > disturbed by the words and > > behavior of some of you here. In less than a > couple of weeks on this > > list, I have seen all the worst behavior of FOSS. > > > > 1. I have seen mindless disdain of MS users, even > though this > > application is cross-platform. > > > > 2. I have seen the always distasteful "be grateful > we are helping you > > because it is free" BS. > > > > 3. I have seen the always disgusting "I do not > understand you therefor I > > will call your words 'irrelevant nonsense' simply > because I do not agree > > with you" garbage. > > > > 4. I have seen the "commercial application of this > project" bitterness > > (which is what the GPL expressly encourages and > permits, you idiots - > > And by the way, when I create a model for MSFS, > the model source, > > textures and even the XML and FDM can indeed be > GPLed because they are > > not based on anybody else work, they are based on > unique and original > > work which is mine to copyright in anyway I see > fit). > > > > 5. I have seen the "you are not allowed to speak > because you are new" > > crap that is so common on open source devel lists, > > > > 6. along with the age old "troll" accusations if > somebody expresses a > > contrary opinion. > > > > 7. and I have seen the "I/he/we have contributed > code, therefor I/he/we > > know more than you" or the "what have you done?" > crap. > > > > Frankly, it turns my stomach. > > > > Sharing and openness is not about you. It is about > the user. Why should > > this project be taken seriously by the flight > simulator community if you > > people can not figure that out. > > > > If you only get satisfaction from contributing > because it makes you feel > > powerful and strokes your ego, and not because you > think it is right; if > > you feel that your contributions are only for you, > and not for the > > betterment of all mankind, then you have no place > in my world. > > > > So do not preach to me. Doing so is about as > ridiculous as a choirboy > > preaching to the Bishop. > > > > Good riddance. > > Shad > >
Hmmm.... Yes, the answers were o.k. and he always got good help. But if you are subscribed to the list, you get a lot of more information and a lot of things maybe you don't want to hear.... Project FlightGear at least has a very familiar atmosphere- the numbers of developers are small and clear- it is not to easy to come along this. To Shad: If you only want to blow off frustration- you are wrong here. If you want really critize the way we work- then you have to name what happened precise! Regards HHS still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. www.yahoo.de/mail ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
