On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:42:28 -0600, Jon wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:28:11 -0600 > "Curtis Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Shad, > > > > ... > > > > So unless all this happened in private email, I honestly don't know > > where you are getting any of this from? All the discussion on the > > public mailing list that derived from any of your questions or comments > > was professional, courteous, timely, and helpful. > > Curt, you are very diplomatic. I've read Shad's note several times. > Having been involved with this community and project for over ten > years, and having reviewed Shad's previous messages, and also having > been involved in other FOSS projects over the years, and knowing who > is involved in this project, and the calibre of the individuals > involved, all I can say is that if Shad really wanted to be a mature > and effective FOSS advocate he would have tried to be diplomatic and > point out where we have been impolite. Instead, we got self-inflated > credential-dropping and a "ready, fire, aim" stone-throwing incident. > I'd guess that if Shad had a good hard look at the credentials of the > flightgear community of users and developers who have been working > together effectively for years, he might be a bit embarrassed at > having jumped the gun. > > Shad owes this community an apology. > > Jon ..I am still open to the idea somebody has played games with Shad to try shoo him off using FlightGear in his commercial flight training tool project, e.g. Microsoft is known to fund and get such schemes done. ..beware that even if you receive an email with headers pointing to this list, those headers may still be forged and the list may not neccessarily have ever seen that relevant troll post you see. ..skillful trolls would inject such forgeries into especially heated debates to try maximize the conflict, to try run developers off this project, preferably in disgust. I suspect several of you guys here has been subject to such forgeries. ..not knowing Shad, I offered a wee background on the conflicting licenses and suggested a practical way around those, and I also suggested using Ubuntu style Live CD's as a practical way around Microsoft "OS" fragility, and all I saw was Shad's "All good points." ..Shad, if you would check our mail headers with less (on e.g. a Kubuntu Live CD), and post a tarball with full mail headers of whatever caused your scornful preaching-to-the-Bishop post? ..meanwhile, Curt, I would like to see that soap box post of mine that you refer to in your very diplomatic response to Shad's Preaching to the Bishop post, with full headers, please, so I can check _whether_ I "posted something which started out loosely based on the original thread and headed off onto his own personal soap box and that's just what Arnt does." ;o) ..I have a Microsoft Windows "2003 Server" mail server outside my own network that I consider a threat on [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s life. Whatever goes thru that box, Microsoft _can_ see, _if_ they want to, regardless of the legalities. Fortunately, I have another route for my incoming mail traffic. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
