On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:55:45 -0500, William wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:42:28 -0600, Jon wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:28:11 -0600 > >> "Curtis Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Hi Shad, > >>> > >>> ... > >>> > >>> So unless all this happened in private email, I honestly don't know > >>> where you are getting any of this from? All the discussion on the > >>> public mailing list that derived from any of your questions or comments > >>> was professional, courteous, timely, and helpful. > >> Curt, you are very diplomatic. I've read Shad's note several times. > >> Having been involved with this community and project for over ten > >> years, and having reviewed Shad's previous messages, and also having > >> been involved in other FOSS projects over the years, and knowing who > >> is involved in this project, and the calibre of the individuals > >> involved, all I can say is that if Shad really wanted to be a mature > >> and effective FOSS advocate he would have tried to be diplomatic and > >> point out where we have been impolite. Instead, we got self-inflated > >> credential-dropping and a "ready, fire, aim" stone-throwing incident. > >> I'd guess that if Shad had a good hard look at the credentials of the > >> flightgear community of users and developers who have been working > >> together effectively for years, he might be a bit embarrassed at > >> having jumped the gun. > >> > >> Shad owes this community an apology. > >> > >> Jon > > > > ..I am still open to the idea somebody has played games with Shad to > > try shoo him off using FlightGear in his commercial flight training > > tool project, e.g. Microsoft is known to fund and get such schemes > > done. > > > > ..beware that even if you receive an email with headers pointing to > > this list, those headers may still be forged and the list may not > > neccessarily have ever seen that relevant troll post you see. > > > > ..skillful trolls would inject such forgeries into especially heated > > debates to try maximize the conflict, to try run developers off this > > project, preferably in disgust. I suspect several of you guys here > > has been subject to such forgeries. > > > > ..not knowing Shad, I offered a wee background on the conflicting > > licenses and suggested a practical way around those, and I also > > suggested using Ubuntu style Live CD's as a practical way around > > Microsoft "OS" fragility, and all I saw was Shad's "All good points." > > > > ..Shad, if you would check our ..Shad, I of course meant your, as in the full headers of the mail traffic you received and which caused your Preach to the Bishop post. > > mail headers with less (on e.g. > > a Kubuntu Live CD), and post a tarball with full mail headers > > of whatever caused your scornful preaching-to-the-Bishop post? > > > > ..meanwhile, Curt, I would like to see that soap box post of mine > > that you refer to in your very diplomatic response to Shad's > > Preaching to the Bishop post, with full headers, please, so I can > > check _whether_ I "posted something which started out loosely based > > on the original thread and headed off onto his own personal soap box > > and that's just what Arnt does." ;o) > > > > ..I have a Microsoft Windows "2003 Server" mail server outside > > my own network that I consider a threat on [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s life. > > Whatever goes thru that box, Microsoft _can_ see, _if_ they > > want to, regardless of the legalities. > > Fortunately, I have another route for my incoming mail traffic. > > > All listening, > > As a silent asst. admin., I had been watching the general > discussions, and was as surprised as anyone at the Preacher post. It > might be a good idea for someone to contact Shad to see if the > confusion can be resolved, but notes here on the list won't work, he > unsubscribed 3 minutes after the post in question. ..I CC:'ed Shad in my response to Jon's post, and I have no response this far, not even a bounce on the CC:'ed part, give him time over the New Year weekend into 2008. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
