Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:42:28 -0600, Jon wrote in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:28:11 -0600
>> "Curtis Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hi Shad,
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> So unless all this happened in private email, I honestly don't know
>>> where you are getting any of this from? All the discussion on the
>>> public mailing list that derived from any of your questions or comments
>>> was professional, courteous, timely, and helpful.
>> Curt, you are very diplomatic. I've read Shad's note several times.
>> Having been involved with this community and project for over ten
>> years, and having reviewed Shad's previous messages, and also having
>> been involved in other FOSS projects over the years, and knowing who
>> is involved in this project, and the calibre of the individuals
>> involved, all I can say is that if Shad really wanted to be a mature
>> and effective FOSS advocate he would have tried to be diplomatic and
>> point out where we have been impolite. Instead, we got self-inflated
>> credential-dropping and a "ready, fire, aim" stone-throwing incident.
>> I'd guess that if Shad had a good hard look at the credentials of the
>> flightgear community of users and developers who have been working
>> together effectively for years, he might be a bit embarrassed at
>> having jumped the gun.
>>
>> Shad owes this community an apology.
>>
>> Jon
>
> ..I am still open to the idea somebody has played games with Shad to
> try shoo him off using FlightGear in his commercial flight training
> tool project, e.g. Microsoft is known to fund and get such schemes
> done.
>
> ..beware that even if you receive an email with headers pointing to
> this list, those headers may still be forged and the list may not
> neccessarily have ever seen that relevant troll post you see.
>
> ..skillful trolls would inject such forgeries into especially heated
> debates to try maximize the conflict, to try run developers off this
> project, preferably in disgust. I suspect several of you guys here
> has been subject to such forgeries.
>
> ..not knowing Shad, I offered a wee background on the conflicting
> licenses and suggested a practical way around those, and I also
> suggested using Ubuntu style Live CD's as a practical way around
> Microsoft "OS" fragility, and all I saw was Shad's "All good points."
>
> ..Shad, if you would check our mail headers with less (on e.g.
> a Kubuntu Live CD), and post a tarball with full mail headers
> of whatever caused your scornful preaching-to-the-Bishop post?
>
> ..meanwhile, Curt, I would like to see that soap box post of mine
> that you refer to in your very diplomatic response to Shad's
> Preaching to the Bishop post, with full headers, please, so I can
> check _whether_ I "posted something which started out loosely based
> on the original thread and headed off onto his own personal soap box
> and that's just what Arnt does." ;o)
>
> ..I have a Microsoft Windows "2003 Server" mail server outside
> my own network that I consider a threat on [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s life.
> Whatever goes thru that box, Microsoft _can_ see, _if_ they
> want to, regardless of the legalities.
> Fortunately, I have another route for my incoming mail traffic.
>
All listening,
As a silent asst. admin., I had been watching the general
discussions, and was as surprised as anyone at the Preacher post. It
might be a good idea for someone to contact Shad to see if the
confusion can be resolved, but notes here on the list won't work, he
unsubscribed 3 minutes after the post in question.
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