On Saturday 06 Feb 2010, Martin Spott wrote:
> leee wrote:
> > On Saturday 06 Feb 2010, Martin Spott wrote:
> >> John Denker wrote:
> >> > The fact that workarounds exist for this bug seems to
> >> > be rather strong evidence that the bug exists.
> >>
> >> The sole fact that you're getting in trouble with the way you
> >> are doing things on your very local setup doesn't prove a
> >> single bug,
> >
> > If ./configure is generating a makefile that doesn't work then
> > there is clearly a bug.
>
> A "bug" is not necessarily the same as a "on my very custom setup
> it doesn't work the way as I would expect". Several people are
> having severe dificulties to understand the difference,
> especially when they're starting to deal with non-trivial
> components in their setup.
>
> > Saying that because the bug doesn't exist because it isn't
> > widespread is just being in denial, and is an excuse (not a
> > reason) for doing nothing about it.
>
> I don't mean not to do anything about it. But I don't agree with
> people crying "bug" on every occasion just because they just
> don't understand the implications of what they're doing.
>
> Cheers,
>       Martin.

This is hardly a case of "on my very custom setup it doesn't work 
the way as I would expect".

The system does not seem to be highly customised and generating a 
makefile that doesn't work cannot be passed off as just not working 
in the way expected.

Neither do people normally 'cry' bug whenever they have a problem.

This sort of exaggeration and misrepresentation of the circumstances 
doesn't get anyone anywhere.

John's 'Joe' the non-C++ programmer is a valid scenario.  Implying 
that the problem only occurs when people don't understand the 
implications of what they're doing is like suggesting that people 
who can't do their own automobile maintenance and repairs shouldn't 
drive, or indeed, that people who can't fly an aircraft shouldn't 
travel by air.

LeeE

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