On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:14:01 +0200, Alex wrote in message 
<20110622151401.2bf8cf76@main>:

> Am Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:48:59 +0200
> schrieb Arnt Karlsen <a...@c2i.net>:
> 
> > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:37:27 +0200, Alex wrote in message 
> > <20110622133727.6a7007df@main>:
> > 
> > > Am Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:20:17 +0200
> > > schrieb Arnt Karlsen <a...@c2i.net>:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:42:41 +0200, Alex wrote in message 
> > > > <20110621234241.5daf0f9e@main>:
> > > > 
> > > > > I am using system:
> > > > > Linux 2.6.39.1 #2 SMP x86_64 GNU/Linux Debian Stable/Squeeze
> > > > > ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4200]
> > > > 
> > > > ..a laptop?
> > > no
> > > 
> > > > > Driver: fglrx, mostly latest version, 11.6 atm (11.1/11.2
> > > > > during testing, IIRC)
> > > > 
> > > > ..try the radeon driver, it should support your graphics card 
> > > > better by now.  
> > > > It may also expose other bugs you haven't seen yet, 
> > > > exactly because you have been using fglrx.
> > > What is your point? 
> > 
> > ..the radeon and radeonhd drivers are both in development 
> > just like FG and may do now what they did not do the last 
> > time you tried them, my guess is the radeon driver on your 
> > card, should beat both fglrx and radeonhd, so come on and 
> > prove me wrong. ;o)
> > 
> > > How is that related to the versions of the
> > > dependencies of SG/FG?
> > 
> > ..I'm talking about the "ATI" bugs that none of the Nvidea 
> > owner FG developers could see, and that I suspect is part 
> > driver, part OSG, part SG and part FG.  
> > 
> > ..trying another driver with everything else left as is, 
> > gives us all a new observation.  (I haven't been able to 
> > do that myself due to RL issues such as housing.)
> > 
> > ..I _have_ seen improvements since I filed bug #264, but there 
> > are also #295 and maybe #320, my #264 and #295 may be related 
> > to #96. 
> > 
> > ..whenever OSG, SG or FG demands something that the hardware 
> > cannot support, the driver should reject that demand and tell 
> > us a little more than:
> > "r300: ERROR: FS input generic 17 unassigned, not enough hardware
> > slots." so I can try _educated_ guesses.
> 
> Ahh, I see. You're suggesting to use radeon/hd driver to find bugs so
> the drivers/osg/sg/fg could be improved?

..close ;o), I recommend testing them all for bug swatting,
and pick the best one for LinuxTag etc shows.

> However, back to the topic: at the moment, what version of osg do you
> recommend for systems using the radeon/hd drivers?

..again, all versions, I'm on Debian Sid+Experimental and use:
http://wiki.flightgear.org/Scripted_Compilation_on_Linux_Debian/Ubuntu
and edit the script to use the newest versions of OSG, my last try 
was 2.9.16 which failed, and I'm trying today's OSG-3.0.0~rc3. ;o)
Usually I fall back to a stable release if the latest news fails.

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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