sorry,

you must read
Which is not useful here since the diff is:
FROM   ==> Without Rembrandt and Without Atmospheric.LS
which is the most simple,
VERSUS ==>  Without Rembrandt and With Atmospheric.LS.



On 1 May 2013 16:59, grtuxhangar team <hohora...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Arnst
>
>
> you wrote
>
> > menu options you used to create these screenshots
>
> .."#3" is why I wand your answer(s):
> > so we can try reproduce them.
>
> I am not  sure i understand your question :
>
> You want to know how does the screenshots were done ?
>
> I gave you the answer before
>
> Just       USE    ==> F3 key<===,      no menu , not any others tools,
> that's done.
>
>
> Your Guess about driver is out,
> since whith an older driver we got the same, wrong result.
> Then, to be sure  before giving our screenshots we made it again with the
> very last driver ( rebuild nvidia.ko )
>
> You could only Guess the GPU is wrong, which would make that whole  family
> GF110 GPU  wrong (there is a lot)
>
> The Box ! how could it be ?  FG has been built without any specific
> modifications, we are using generic tools.
> Like said before, we had only to find a place within our scenery data  to
> avoid any crash with that  "Charcot's Renderer"  ( cf Heiko ).
>
>
>
> ".so if I enter those command line options and have exactly the same
> models and exactly the same scenery and exactly the same sim weather,
> I should see exactly the same thing and be able to make exactly the
> same screen shots"
>
> Which is not useful here since the diff is:
> FROM   ==> Without Rembrandt and Without Atmospheric.LS
> which is the most simple,
> VERSUS ==>  With Rembrandt and With Atmospheric.LS.
>
> The snapshots with Rembrandt are not involved here, since the textures
> remains right, correctly enlightened, and the shadow is there.
>
> Any others official snapshots  with that model and any other models from
> our Hangar do not give any odd picture, with Rembrandt.
>
> Kind regards.
>
> Ahmad
>
>
>
> On 1 May 2013 15:43, Arnt Karlsen <a...@iaksess.no> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 1 May 2013 14:00:03 +0200, grtuxhangar wrote in message
>> <cafevutcj5zknsb+l4_75ea85br-mswbel8zyci08s_n45xr...@mail.gmail.com>:
>>
>> > Arnt,
>> >
>> > I could not answer  that question
>>
>> ..those are 2 questions on the same thing, #1
>> > "..yes?  I'd like to see the commandlines and
>>
>> ..#2:
>> > menu options you used to create these screenshots
>>
>> .."#3" is why I wand your answer(s):
>> > so we can try reproduce them.
>>
>> ..this is my _guess_:
>> > This _may_ e.g. be a driver bug on only your box."
>> >
>> > Here you will find both files content which answer your request:
>> > https://sites.google.com/site/grtuxhangarctd/other-download/.fgfsrc
>>
>> ..so if I enter those command line options and have exactly the same
>> models and exactly the same scenery and exactly the same sim weather,
>> I should see exactly the same thing and be able to make exactly the
>> same screen shots.
>>
>> ..an easier way is, specify everything, e.g. ...
>> --on-ground                  Start at ground level (default)
>> --in-air                     Start in air (implied when using
>> --altitude)
>>
>> ...and then your time options and your specific "Initial
>> Position and Orientation:" options, e.g.
>> --runway=rwy_no              Specify starting runway (must also
>>                                 specify an airport)
>> ... or directly with e.g. these:
>> --lon=degrees                Starting longitude (west = -)
>> --lat=degrees                Starting latitude (south = -)
>> --altitude=value             Starting altitude
>>                                 (in feet unless --units-meters
>>                                 specified)
>> --heading=degrees            Specify heading (yaw) angle (Psi)
>> --roll=degrees               Specify roll angle (Phi)
>> --pitch=degrees              Specify pitch angle (Theta)
>>
>> ..these options can be put in your various screenshot .fgfsrc,
>> you may e.g. want one for each test case.  And, I can see a
>> use for a --startup-paused option, to make screenshots.
>>
>>
>> > which point to the following
>> >
>> https://sites.google.com/site/grtuxhangarctd/other-download/preferences-devel.xml
>> > You can notice that last one is situated within the HOME .fgfs
>> > directory
>> >
>> > These two files refer to our community/team mainframe  which is being
>> > used to develop our FG models.
>> > The screenshots are made with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> > By the way the multi core systems is not used by FlightGear , since
>> > only OSG can use it ( unfortunately wrongly at least within FG ).
>> >
>> > If you are ONLY running FlightGear with your computer you don't need a
>> > multi core, there won't be any profit.
>>
>> ..I disagree, IME I'm still able to recover
>> my boxes when FG hangs or tries frying cpu.
>>
>> > Multi core is only useful if you are  working  on other developments
>> > (which explain our equipment).
>> >
>> >
>> > Hope it answer your question.
>> >
>> > Kind regard
>> >
>> > Ahmad
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 30 April 2013 15:06, Arnt Karlsen <a...@iaksess.no> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:24:42 +0200, grtuxhangar wrote in message
>> > > <CAFEVUtBb=gxvwqaak1u7zzssgn26ndx88zbmg8+5sp1kdi-...@mail.gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > > > Hello everybody
>> > > >
>> > > > Well, let's come to some example, then the users could appreciate
>> > > >
>> > > > There, a lot of snapshots i have just received from David (one of
>> > > > our team's member)
>> > > > Those snapshots were done with FG Git, and France 850 Scenery.
>> > > > Only the vegetation is being an old one , since getting some
>> > > > trouble with the last version.
>> > > > The computer is a mainframe with 2 Nvidia cards SLI Architecture
>> > > > GPU   geforce GTX 560 ti CUDA Cores:448
>> > >
>> > > ..mainframe???  Details, please.
>> > >
>> > > > NV Driver 319.12
>> > >
>> > > ..which "NV 319.12" driver?
>> > >
>> > > > Starting with FG snapshots Without ALS and With Rembrandt
>> > >
>> > > ..yes?  I'd like to see the commandlines and menu options you
>> > > used to create these screenshots so we can try reproduce them.
>> > > This _may_ e.g. be a driver bug on only your box.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ..only these 2 screenshots are directly comparable to
>> > > the 3 test cases you present, so I'd like to see your
>> > > "Without ALS and With Rembrandt" version of these 2:
>> > > > Now FG snapshots Without ALS and Without Rembrandt
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> https://sites.google.com/site/grtuxhangarctd/other-download/P-38_demo2.png
>> > >
>> > > > Now, sorry, FG snapshots With ALS and Without Rembrandt
>> > > >
>> > >
>> https://sites.google.com/site/grtuxhangarctd/other-download/P-38_demo1.png
>> > >
>> > > ..2(?) years back, I was the only one here to see all pitch
>> > > black aircraft with ATI Radeon cards on X.org radeon drivers.
>> > >
>> > > > Who said we don't need  a specific version when using ALS ?
>> > > >
>> > > > BTW We had to search for a  place were we could load Model with
>> > > > ALS You probably notice, it is the P-38L model, to fly with
>> > > > Rembrandt or Without Rembrandt
>> > > > ONLY one model to load  :) .
>> > > > Sorry it is not ALS Compliant.
>> > >
>> > > ..are there other ALS-non-compliant models?
>> > >
>> > > > We have not chosen the most beautiful one it is only an example.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > You may want to take acknowledge of  some snapshots done with
>> > > > Rembrandt , part of the grtux_hangar related.
>> > > >
>> > > > there the link
>> > > > https://picasaweb.google.com/117502256492585017152
>> > >
>> > > ..does any of these compare the ALS vs Rembrandt vs default etc test
>> > > cases?  All I've seen there this far, are pretty screenshots.
>> > >
>> > > > All the best to FG Community
>> > > >
>> > > > Ahmad
>>
>>
>> --
>> ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
>> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
>>   Scenarios always come in sets of three:
>>   best case, worst case, and just in case.
>>
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