[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

..to make formation flight realistic, we also need to model downwash and
wing tip vortices.  Meanwhile, have fun and join in developing it.  ;o)

Jetwash too. From what I understand, that can really ruin a nice formation.

Oh, you seem to be experts. I can imagine what effect jetwash has (fast hot air surrounded by stagnant cold air). But what consequence do wing tip vortices have to the aircraft? Does it mean to have more aerodynamic resistance at a specific amount of speed?
There's a pretty famous story of some C-130 (I think) pilots who rode through a 747's wingtip vortices about 2 miles ahead of them. Their aircraft was totally destroyed, did about 5 rolls, and they were barely able to get it on the ground in one piece. I think the wing spar partially broke during the landing, and the wingtips were just about touching the ground when they stopped. They were very skillful in remaining airborne until they punched through the other side of the vortices without
causing complete failure of the airframe.

So, the wingtip vortices have been describes as "awesome horizontal tornadoes"! There's a picture that was in the Smithsonian/Air & Space magazine a couple of years ago, of an Ag Cat with red dye in the sprayers, and it painted a 3-d picture of the vortices trailing it. It was totally awesome, the vortices formed a pair of counterrotating funnels whose diameter a little behind the tail were equal to
the length of each wing!

Here's some related photos :
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/B-727/HTML/ECN-3831.html
http://www.professionalpilot.ca/aerodynamics/drag/induced.htm

I'm still looking for that Air&Space photo on the web.

Jon




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