On Friday 17 Jun 2005 21:11, Christian Mayer wrote:
> Josh Babcock schrieb:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>Oh, you seem to be experts. I can imagine what effect
> >> jetwash has (fast hot air surrounded by stagnant cold air).
> >> But what consequence do wing tip vortices have to the
> >> aircraft? Does it mean to have more aerodynamic resistance
> >> at a specific amount of speed?
> >
> > Actually the problem with jetwash is the very low O2
> > content. When you rely on a combustion engine to keep you in
> > the air, this kind of air is the last thing you want to run
> > you intake or carburetor through. The huge wind shear is no
> > treat either, but the flameout/engine stall is the bigger
> > problem.
>
> Wasn't that the cause for the accident in the "Top Gun" movie?
>
> CU,
> Christian

The accident in 'Top Gun' was accurate regarding flat-spins in 
the F-14 and the likelihood of the crew hitting the canopy when 
ejecting in that condition.

As to the circumstances that bring about a flat-spin in an F-14 - 
dunno.

The F-14 was a 'lifting-body' design and like the later YF-23, it 
was mostly aero-dynamic lifting surfaces with the fuselage and 
engine nacelles attached.  I believe it had good behaviour at 
high AoAs but in those conditions the twin fins had little 
authority.  It also had widely separated engines, which wouldn't 
have helped in a high-AoA, high-power situation when one of the 
engines failed.  The elevons, which would have been the only 
effective flight-control surfaces in that regime, probably 
wouldn't be able to cope with the off-center thrust without 
entering even worse regimes.

Incidentally, there's some very good footage of the F-14 in Top 
Gun - worth watching if you're interested in different types of 
a/c.

LeeE

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