hi ann,

the following post resulted in my buying said book in which tamas was included.

excellent book btw. i have had doubts about taking him off the list though not
about the others.
he said i am boring and i thought about it and he is probably right from his
point of view. after all i live in a little place far removed from the crush of
civilization and i am primarily a painter. so it gave me some interesting
thoughts. just wanted to let you know he has contributed at least this one
positive post and probably more.

bests, carol


"St.Auby Tamas" wrote:

> H,
>
> the STRIKE book is a catalog of
> the STRIKE-exposition in Wolverhampton Art Gallery, England,
> 14 September - 9 November 2002.
> It contains texts by more than 100
> artists related to the subject.
> ---------------------------------------
> The 'STRIKE book' (2002, Alberta Press London)
> ISBN 3-88375-637-7
> can be ordered from
> Cornerhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Distribution Germany:
> Buchhandlung Walter Konig
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---------------------------------------
> You can also buy copies at cost price direct from
> GAVIN WADE
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 42 Rolt Street, Deptford
> London, SE8 5NL
> 0208-691-0786 ph/fax
> 07976-403696
> ---------------------------------------
> Probably best off buying the book from Franz Koenig at
> The Serpentine Gallery Bookshop.
> You can contact him by email:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> and he can sort out the payment, posting etc.
>
> �7.50 each.
>
> H,
> a



Ann Klefstad wrote:

> Ok, Bertrand, after years of reading insults on this list, I wanted to at
> least model some insults that could be amusing, in at least some way. Eric's
> utterly-in-earnest character assassination of Ken was horrible to read, day
> after day; it was also horrible to see Ken attempt to engage with it when it
> so patently could not be engaged; it has been awful to see the repressed mr
> tamas mistake bile for freedom (it must be that repressive school system--);
> it has been awful to have mr death spewing away and awful to see the
> resemblance his automatic negativity had to other nastiness in the past on
> the list. So truly, perhaps allen acted peremptorily and perhaps the list
> should now reconsider, but I would say that such reconsideration should be
> based on what the individuals in qustion have contributed (or not): Could we
> do a search of the archives and post on a site the "collected works" of
> each, and, reading them through in their totality, determine whether either
> has ever said anything on the list that was not self-interested to the point
> of obsession, thoughtless, or vengeful? I am ever so willing to be proven
> wrong. Could we do this, and then vote on the question?
>
> I think, myself, that both of these characters should be, and perhaps will
> be, ashamed to read the sum total of their posts to this list. If I had
> written what they did, I certainly would be. It's not a question of
> "sounding different." It's a question of taking away others' powers of
> expression through slander, insult, innuendo, and other verbal nastiness.
>
> And by the way, "curdled" usually refers to milk--when it curdles it goes
> off, it spoils. Metaphorically in context it means when something good is
> transformed into something bad--also, incidentally, goes from liquid to
> solid. Turns lumpish.
>
> AK

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