On 1/3/03 10:32 AM, "Carol Starr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi ann, > > the following post resulted in my buying said book in which tamas was > included. Smells like self-promotion to me. I have yet to remember or see anything that is positive that he sent to the list that is not in some way self-promotion, self-obsession. He called you boring. You are not boring. He is bored. There is a difference. He has so very little grace in his writings, so little generosity, so little curiosity about anyone different from him, at least as evidenced in his contributions to this list. AK > > excellent book btw. i have had doubts about taking him off the list though not > about the others. > he said i am boring and i thought about it and he is probably right from his > point of view. after all i live in a little place far removed from the crush > of > civilization and i am primarily a painter. so it gave me some interesting > thoughts. just wanted to let you know he has contributed at least this one > positive post and probably more. > > bests, carol > > > "St.Auby Tamas" wrote: > >> H, >> >> the STRIKE book is a catalog of >> the STRIKE-exposition in Wolverhampton Art Gallery, England, >> 14 September - 9 November 2002. >> It contains texts by more than 100 >> artists related to the subject. >> --------------------------------------- >> The 'STRIKE book' (2002, Alberta Press London) >> ISBN 3-88375-637-7 >> can be ordered from >> Cornerhouse >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Distribution Germany: >> Buchhandlung Walter Konig >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> --------------------------------------- >> You can also buy copies at cost price direct from >> GAVIN WADE >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> 42 Rolt Street, Deptford >> London, SE8 5NL >> 0208-691-0786 ph/fax >> 07976-403696 >> --------------------------------------- >> Probably best off buying the book from Franz Koenig at >> The Serpentine Gallery Bookshop. >> You can contact him by email: >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> and he can sort out the payment, posting etc. >> >> £7.50 each. >> >> H, >> a > > > > Ann Klefstad wrote: > >> Ok, Bertrand, after years of reading insults on this list, I wanted to at >> least model some insults that could be amusing, in at least some way. Eric's >> utterly-in-earnest character assassination of Ken was horrible to read, day >> after day; it was also horrible to see Ken attempt to engage with it when it >> so patently could not be engaged; it has been awful to see the repressed mr >> tamas mistake bile for freedom (it must be that repressive school system--); >> it has been awful to have mr death spewing away and awful to see the >> resemblance his automatic negativity had to other nastiness in the past on >> the list. So truly, perhaps allen acted peremptorily and perhaps the list >> should now reconsider, but I would say that such reconsideration should be >> based on what the individuals in qustion have contributed (or not): Could we >> do a search of the archives and post on a site the "collected works" of >> each, and, reading them through in their totality, determine whether either >> has ever said anything on the list that was not self-interested to the point >> of obsession, thoughtless, or vengeful? I am ever so willing to be proven >> wrong. Could we do this, and then vote on the question? >> >> I think, myself, that both of these characters should be, and perhaps will >> be, ashamed to read the sum total of their posts to this list. If I had >> written what they did, I certainly would be. It's not a question of >> "sounding different." It's a question of taking away others' powers of >> expression through slander, insult, innuendo, and other verbal nastiness. >> >> And by the way, "curdled" usually refers to milk--when it curdles it goes >> off, it spoils. Metaphorically in context it means when something good is >> transformed into something bad--also, incidentally, goes from liquid to >> solid. Turns lumpish. >> >> AK >
