I'm trying to get away from as many Microsoft products as possible, myself.
If anyone missed my posting about Pegasus mail and wants to try that
program, I can resend that information.

Lately I have been reading more and more things which indicate that, not
only does Microsoft have all these security problems and annoyances, but
they are strongly philosophically opposed to many things that members of
this group probably hold out as ideals. For example, they have stated that
open-source software (such as Linux, where everyone has access to the code
that runs the system so cooperation is possible) is contrary to American
values (which I guess must be ownership). In one article I read (which was
in the Kennebec Journal - not some lefty newsletter), the quotes from
Microsoft officials lead me to conclude that their philosophy of
Intellectual Property Rights means not only that you MAY own something and
keep it all to yourself, but goes beyond that to mean you MUST own things
and should not share them or make them public. I also recently read that
they are redesigning their website so you can only use it with Internet
Explorer - rather than cooperating with HTML standards which allow web users
a choice of browsers. Was it coincidental that the other day when I tried to
print an article from their "knowledge base" it froze my computer when I
used either NetScape or Opera? I successfully printed it using Internet
Explorer. They are committed to proprietariness in every place they can
plant it. And if you use even one of their products they want you to HAVE To
use all of their other products.

Seems like I just read that they purchased Corel (manufacturer of their
major competitor in the Word Processing business - Word Perfect. Woe be unto
the Word Perfect users if this is true).

OK. That was MY rant.
In Solidarity,
-cynthia

-----Original Message-----
From:   Jonathan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:17 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        [folkschool-list] Reposting: Internet Explorer cookie security hole

Back in November, I sent an alert to the list about a newly-discovered
security hole in Internet Explorer that could allow outsiders to get access
to the contents of your computer's cookies, where sensitive personal
information (such as passwords) might be stored.  I thought this was
important enough to repost.  (The original message, with more information
is below.)  If you are using either Internet Explorer or Outlook Express,
you should definitely fix this security hole on your computer.

If you are using Internet Explorer 5.5 or 6, you can fix the problem by
downloading the "critical updates" from the Windows Update site.  However,
if your version of IE and/or Outlook Express is earlier than 5.5 (which is
probably true for 90% of list members), the only solution is to install the
full version of IE (including Outlook Express, which is an IE component)
version 5.5 or 6.0 - I suggest version 6.  You can also get these updates
from the Windows Update site - however, they will *NOT* appear under the
"Critical Updates" section, but are listed farther down the page.  During
the installation, you will be asked whether you want to do a "typical" or
"custom" install.  Doing the typical install is safest -- if you want to do
a custom install, be sure to include Outlook Express, or you will not fix
the security hole.

It is appropriate, I think, to be more than a little annoyed at Microsoft
for the ways in which they have made keeping up with computer security a
nearly full-time job. In this case, not only have they made it very
difficult for the average user to even know about the problem, but they
also seem to have gone out of their way to make things hard for folks who
are paying attention.  For instance, if you are trying to update IE on
multiple computers on a network, it is not possible to download a single
installation file for all the machines -- you have to go through the whole
10-15 Mb download for each computer.

One last point - according to Woody's Windows Watch
(<www.woodyswatch.com/windows>), Microsoft's Windows Update site was broken
for the last few days, although the company did not admit it.  I know I was
having big problems with it, while setting up a computer for a HelpNet
member.  Things are supposed to be working again now.

OK, rant over.  If you have any questions about all this, please post them
to the list.

Jon

>Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:20:56 +0000
>To: folkschool list
>From: Jon Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Internet Explorer cookie security hole
>
>Last week, Microsoft announced the discovery of yet another security hole
>in Internet Explorer:
>
>"A vulnerability exists because it is possible to craft a URL that
>can allow sites to gain unauthorized access to user's cookies and
>potentially modify the values contained in them. Because some
>web sites store sensitive information in a user's cookies, it is
>also possible that personal information could be exposed."
>
>This seems like a pretty serious problem to me.  If you are using IE 5.5
>or 6, the good news is that Microsoft has posted a patch, at:
>
><http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/critical/q312461/default.asp
>
>
>However, if you are using IE 5 or 5.01 (the most likely version if you
>have Windows 98), the news is not so good.  According to Patrick Douglas
>Crispen, writing in the Nov. 17 Tourbus newsletter (www.tourbus.com),
>Microsoft is no longer supporting pre- 5.5 versions of IE.  So even though
>version 5, (and version 4) may also have this cookie vulnerability,
>Microsoft will not *ever* be issuing patches for earlier versions of
>Internet Explorer.  (If you don't know what version you are using, open
>Internet Explorer, and click on Help > About Internet Explorer.)
>
>If you're using a pre-5.5 version of IE, your choices are to ignore the
>problem, upgrade to IE 5.5 or 6, or switch to a different browser
>(Netscape, Opera, etc.).  You can download and install an updated version
>of Internet Explorer (I suggest version 6) from Microsoft's Windows Update
>site.  (Click on "Windows Update" on your Start menu, or go to
><www.windowsupdate.com>).  These are BIG downloads - 30-60 minutes on a
>56K connection.
>
>For more information, read Patrick's newsletter in the Tourbus archives
>(<http://www.tourbus.com/archives.htm>).  Any questions?  Send them to
>this list.
>
>Jon
>
>Jonathan Falk
>Pine Tree Folk School
>RR 2, Box 7162
>Carmel, ME  04419
>(207)848-2433
><http://www.ptfolkschool.org>
>
>

Jonathan Falk
Pine Tree Folk School
RR 2, Box 7162
Carmel, ME  04419
(207)848-2433
<http://www.ptfolkschool.org>



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