I understand (and I hope the other people in this list do so too), but I really think that there should be a separate list for arguing about the project's philosophy (which is as important, if not more, as this list).
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:20 PM, chris mills <[email protected]> wrote: > Agreed. Apologies folks, it was a knee jerk reaction to a statement I found > offensive. > > ChrisM > > > On 8 July 2010 19:17, Alex Abate Biral <[email protected]> wrote: > >> People, I really think this isn't the right mailing list for this kind of >> discussion. >> >> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:11 PM, chris mills <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 8 July 2010 17:40, BGB <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> however, morals, ... would seem to be degraded in industrialized nations >>>> (note the widespread prevelance of promiscuity, gays, gangs and violence, >>>> ...), so this may be a cost associated with industrialization (although >>>> there is not any obvious reason why one would lead to the other). this may >>>> also be a cost of urbanization though, I don't know. >>>> >>>> >>> Whoa there, going off topic a bit I know, but I take offence to the >>> suggestion that homosexuality is evidence of moral degradation. Indeed as an >>> unashamed european lefty I would argue that discrimination against gays, >>> minorities, etc is actually greater evidence of moral degradation and this >>> is thankfully becoming less common in the industrialised world. And I would >>> suggest you have a word with a Rwandan, Zimbabwean or Afghan (to name but a >>> few) about whether gangs and violence are worst in the industrialised >>> nations or non-industrialised. Or if you wish to argue against urbanisation >>> I am pretty sure that my own country (england) had some pretty nasty >>> violence before large scale urbanisation - civil wars, violence of >>> landowners against those living on their land, persecution of >>> catholics/protestants (depending on whether catholics or protestants were in >>> charge at the time), burning folks at the stake for unsubstantiated >>> accusations of witch craft, etc. >>> A change in the prevailing moral code does not imply a degradation. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fonc mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fonc mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > >
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