People, I really think this isn't the right mailing list for this kind of discussion.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:11 PM, chris mills <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 8 July 2010 17:40, BGB <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> however, morals, ... would seem to be degraded in industrialized nations >> (note the widespread prevelance of promiscuity, gays, gangs and violence, >> ...), so this may be a cost associated with industrialization (although >> there is not any obvious reason why one would lead to the other). this may >> also be a cost of urbanization though, I don't know. >> >> > Whoa there, going off topic a bit I know, but I take offence to the > suggestion that homosexuality is evidence of moral degradation. Indeed as an > unashamed european lefty I would argue that discrimination against gays, > minorities, etc is actually greater evidence of moral degradation and this > is thankfully becoming less common in the industrialised world. And I would > suggest you have a word with a Rwandan, Zimbabwean or Afghan (to name but a > few) about whether gangs and violence are worst in the industrialised > nations or non-industrialised. Or if you wish to argue against urbanisation > I am pretty sure that my own country (england) had some pretty nasty > violence before large scale urbanisation - civil wars, violence of > landowners against those living on their land, persecution of > catholics/protestants (depending on whether catholics or protestants were in > charge at the time), burning folks at the stake for unsubstantiated > accusations of witch craft, etc. > A change in the prevailing moral code does not imply a degradation. > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > [email protected] > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > >
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